Thanks for understanding 50% of what I type is sarcasm and the other 50% isn't which I fully expect you to be able to know. Yes, that was sarcasm. I honestly don't mean to sound like a ahole with posts like this. However I would have to type a lie if I said that I learned anything on here except from @52 Ford. I have only been doing metal since October. I understand that I learn much different than normal people and it may take less time. No, I don't actually expect anyone here to know about how I learn or me or what I know and don't know (trust me the latter is >), which is why I try and explain it as easily as possible in my signature and website. I know people are going to respond like this, I do after all work as a computer nerd. I'm far from new to the internet. It's just much worse now than it was in 2003 so I choose to not participate. I did yes, figure that people who are making knives would know a hell of a lot more than I do about metallurgy/materials science/chemistry/physics etc. I also figured it was common sense for someone to understand how to use a cell phone in a survival "situation" to make fire. (Along with using the camera lenses which may be possible?idk) YES. I WAS WRONG. I fully admit it. However, I am here to learn. Not argue. If you do not like me, then I yes expect you to be smart enough and mature enough of an adult to just block me. Other than that, I have work to do for people who understand me, so no, I don't care and I am not benefitting from doing any of this where as everyone else I know is charging ridiculous amounts of money for CNC cut and hand finished blades, so, actually yes, I do know that what I'm doing is wanted by people to the extent I can't keep up with it at any level that keeps it a hobby. And na, I don't care what anyone else is doing frankly. Not my business. (Pun not intended) So is it that much to ask? Well yes I actually do understand that it is. I just don't care. Sorry. Certain people have these things called morals that they won't ever break. So let me help you, you're wasting your time. I can read this as antiscale dries. I can reply and am. This is the last response I will post in this thread. Period. I wish everyone here the very best. And yes, that is not sarcasm I actually do mean that. Just piss off. KthxYou’re very entertaining sir I’ll give you that.