In all seriousness, Thank you for that Kevin. You said very simply what I struggle to get across. Some people think because someone wrote in a book that this steel should be quenched in oil, air or goat urine that there could not possibly be another way to achieve acceptable results, perhaps not the very best results, but fully acceptable results. So when people see someone who does something a little different because it works for them they feel a need to pounce. I have said it many times., I give advice form a hobbyists standpoint and from what works in my shop and that is it.Please be aware that none of this is “all or nothing”, nothing in steel is 100%, we are always trying to trim off those extra phases to the levels that are acceptable to us. There are levels that will allow the knife to do what we want, even though under the microscope, it may be shocking. We just need to find our happy spot, our Eden.