Stag/Antler - What kind to use?

J S Machine

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I posted a thread a few weeks ago asking what the big deal about bone and antler was. After the information I have obtained, I think I would like to try working with some of the stuff. I have a couple of old deer antlers laying around. I don't know if this is the stuff to use or if another animal's antler is more common. I see the term "stag" all the time, but what is that actually referring to?

What types of antler or stag are most popular? Also does it need to be stabilized, or is it ok to just leave it in it's natural state?

Thanks
 
Without a doubt the most popular type of antler material is Sambar Stag. The main reason for it's popularity among knifemakers is that it tends to be very solid throughout, which makes it somewhat less susceptible to shrinking and expansion.

Sambar is somewhat of an oddity in nature.....most antler, especially those of the North American animals, tend to be a thin sheath of hard material, with a "pithy" core. As the size of the animal (and the antlers) increase, the outter sheath of harder/denser material gets thinner, and the "pithy" core gets larger..this is simple physics....if a set of 6X6 elk antlers were solid and didn't have all that "pith" in them, they would be so heavy that the animal could not carry them. This is also the case with Moose, Mule Deer, Whitetail, and Blacktail deer. Caribou antler has some unique characteristics that can make it very attractive for knife handles, but it's often hard to come by.

On the other hand, real Sambar antler will generally be solid nearly all the way through, with a single blood vessel hole, snaking along it's center axis.

In recent years Sambar has become very expensive, and rare, compared to years past. Different international regulations/bans have greatly curtailed it's importation.

Today many knifemakers who believe they are getting Sambar stag, are in fact being sold Red Stag antler, and don't realize it. The two are very similar, until you cut into them and the Red Stag antler has "pith" very much like North American species (but generally to a lesser degree). True Sambar Stag antler will rarely have any "pith" in the core, and will always have a hole, about the size of a #2 pencil lead, running at the center of the long axis.
 
If you are at a show, and can dig around some, you can usually find a few red stags that are pretty solid, but nothing beats the Sambar.
 
I have used whitetail deer antlers on many knives, mostly stick tangs. Using it on full tangs can be done but you have the shrinking, expanding problem to deal with. On full tang knives I treat the antler scales with super glue. I rub it in until the scales won't absorb any more glue. After they dry real good I sand the back flat. Important...use a new belt when sanding the scales and don't let them get hot because they will warp for sure. I use different stains and dyes to get the look I want.

On the stick tangs I drill a hole for the tang as deep as needed, drill a hole through the antler and tang for a pin then fill the hole with JB Weld and stick the tang in and clamp it overnight.

This is the easiest way I have used but not the only way I put antler on knives. I'm sure others have better ways and hopefully someone more knowledgeable than me will jump in and help. Have fun.

Larry
 
Thanks guys. I was checking out some sambar stag. You are Right Mr. Caffrey, they don't give that stuff away. I might try to do a knife with it in the future.
 
FWIW, I have several whitetail antlers here of close to the same size and have found MAJOR differences in the material.

Some are fairly "hard" in the center where you would drill for hidden tang, or slice for scales. Some others are going to be "pithy" as Ed said. I have one set of antlers that I'm not sure I can do much of anything with without stabilization! The exterior is very hard but the center is so soft that you could penetrate it with a toothpick.

If you buy generic antler be ready to accept some that you cannot use. Sambar will generally be ready for use as soon as it hits the front door.

Charlie
 
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