Roman knot file work?

[Tony Manifold]

Anyone know of any tutorials on how to do roman knot file work? I was looking at different file work patterns and I found this but I can't find an explanation on how it is done anywhere.

This is what I am talking about, so we are all on the same page.

 

[rhinoknives]

You could also ask the maker of this knife if you know who it is?

 

[J. Hoffman]

I would start by drilling the spaced holes in the spine. Then I would use a triangle file on the edges, so that the point of the file lines up with the back of the hole on one side and the front of the hole on the other side. Then use a Barrett file edge to connect the points of the triangles to the prospective sides of the hole. I've never done this pattern, but just looking at it, that is the way I would do it. Perhaps someone has a much easier way.

 

[Pelallito]

The liners were probably done with a checkering file.
Fred

 

[Tony Manifold]

You could also ask the maker of this knife if you know who it is?

I just found it during a Google search of knife file work. I am sure someone here has done a similar style, I hope.

 

[bladegrinder]

It looks like a ball end mill was used in the center,I like it.

 

[Mike Martinez]

The maker can be contacted here http://ianvanreenenknives.com/Welcome.html

 

[Tony Manifold]

The maker can be contacted here http://ianvanreenenknives.com/Welcome.html

Awesome. Thanks.

 

[Tony Manifold]

The maker had been asked not to share the secret of roman knot file work. Guess I'll have to figure it out myself. I'll post a tutorial when I figure it out.

 

[Mike Martinez]

Seriously? Wow.

 

[Mike Martinez]

It looks like he used a sharpened dremel cut off wheel and a modified drill bit or ball endmill.

 

[Dennis Morland]

These makers have mastered the Roman Knot. You could try and contact either, or both, of them. They have several good pictures on Roman Knot on their sites.

http://wattscustomknives.com/home
http://prestoncustomknives.com/index.php

Bill Vining has a tutorial for rope, vine and S. Sorry – No Roman Knot.
http://medawebs.com/

Hope this helps.

DeMo

 

[C Craft]

The maker had been asked not to share the secret of roman knot file work. Guess I'll have to figure it out myself. I'll post a tutorial when I figure it out.

For real.......................some folks are just too full of themselves!

 

[Dennis Morland]

I have your answer, but not the cure.

I knew I had seen a how-to on Roman Knot. My OCD kicked in and I scoured the internet looking for the tutorial. Sorry, I could not find what I was looking for, at first.

I may have found something a little better . . . I found this little snippet.

I do not get BLADE magazine. But, I'm sure someone on here can help you with that issue. (Pun intended!) There I said it.

June 2011 BLADE®
How To Make Knives
• How To Do Roman Knot File Work

Good luck in your search.

DeMo

 

[Frank Niro]

Yes, please let us know if you "get the picture" . Frank

 

[tomwatson]

I know but will not divulge his secret. Bill Ruple also does the same way.

 

[Frank Niro]

WoW. No wonder some makers never show up or want to talk about how to do things in knife making. They must feel they don't know enough to feel they can share and still do something that is special. Frank

 

[Stew]

I would start by drilling the spaced holes in the spine. Then I would use a triangle file on the edges, so that the point of the file lines up with the back of the hole on one side and the front of the hole on the other side. Then use a Barrett file edge to connect the points of the triangles to the prospective sides of the hole. I've never done this pattern, but just looking at it, that is the way I would do it. Perhaps someone has a much easier way.

Sounds bang on to me. May need a bit of experimentation to find the right tool to give the shape you want but the principal of what cuts to make sounds rihgt.

Don't see the need for secrecy on it.

 

[Mudman]

I kind of understand why people want to keep some things to themselves. But at the same time, how can you progress without sharing with your brothers and sisters. Whatever I know about things (sadly not much) I am more than willing to share with those interested.

That's a really cool pattern too!

 

[curtisk]

Tony started this thread with a simple question and it seems to have turned into a bashing session.

If a maker has “something” whether it be a product or skill that few others have it increases his marketability. It has nothing at all to do with arrogance or being selfish. I reckon you could ask a maker that is doing “roman knot” file work how to do just about anything else and he would tell you how to do it. There is no sense whatsoever in getting “pooch lipped” about it. Here is a “for instance” for ya, call Jerry Busse and ask him what makes up the INFI steel he utilizes in his knives. When he tells you to take a hike are you going to call him selfish because he won’t share? If so, then take your meds and get out of knifemaking; needle point may be a better option. Of course, when you run across something that really stumps you in that craft and “grandma” won’t tell you how to do it, there is always the option of just sitting around and drooling. (I await the replies of those who do not recognize sarcasm).

Tony, for the record, I have never done the roman knot but I agree with some of the other folks, either a drill or ball end mill, jewelers saw (possibly), and a three sided file, then you should be in business. If I can help ya give me a shout.

Curtis cmforgeknives.com