Bruce McLeish
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What do y'all do with expired chemicals, ie acid and such?
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C Craft
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It is never expired till it don't work no more!! 
Most municipalities have an amnesty day where you can bring all you old chemicals, paint and such. Till then I try not to get rid of it! I ain't no tree hugger but damn it, we have got to take responsibility for our own environment!
When I was a kid they used to run the old commercial with the American Indian viewing what we had done to the environment! Here it is if you don't know what I am speaking off!
The Indian was a true American Indian! He don't cry anymore!
Most municipalities have an amnesty day where you can bring all you old chemicals, paint and such. Till then I try not to get rid of it! I ain't no tree hugger but damn it, we have got to take responsibility for our own environment!
When I was a kid they used to run the old commercial with the American Indian viewing what we had done to the environment! Here it is if you don't know what I am speaking off!
The Indian was a true American Indian! He don't cry anymore!
C Craft
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Ty what I spoke of is a landfill but they do not put the chemicals in the landfill. They pay another company to pick them up and they actually break down all of that. They separate the chemicals into useable products. The paint is also broken down, the oil base I am not sure about.
The latex they break it all down to the components that make up latex paints. It is then sold back to a company who uses the recycled base to make new latex paint, add color as needed!!
Most SDS's do not tell you how to, they tell you where to!! In other words take it to a qualified chemical handler!!
You had a double post, Bjmac, in the one you asked about the quench water. Even though it is water, it now contains all the by products of quenching a piece of steel, IE oil the was on the metal, furnace cement if that is what you use, etc. etc. Given the by products that may be now in the quench water, it may not be proper to expect the aquafer to separate and cleanse the water!!
One of my pet peeves' is batteries. They all contain chemicals that do not go into our landfills. However there are few places you can, (dispose of them properly). Which is basically, the legal mumbo jumbo the manufacturer has to say, to cover their hiney's!! Some of the big box store have disposal bins but, those are more for the batteries of the tool variety and I have been told not to put your flashlight batteries in there!! So every day when we change the batteries in our remotes or smoke alarm or the any of the other 10,000 things that have gone to battery now days. We do what is the normal, and, throw them in our trash bag at the house!! If they truly want to do the right thing they need recycle stations with easy access!
Like I said in the first post I am not a tree hugger but it is pretty undeniable that our environment is changing! Whether you believe in Global Warming or not you have to ask yourself what happened to the ice that the polar bear depended on for so many years. Why are the sea levels rising and at this point are my grandchildren going to have to wear gas masks one day to be able to walk outside. And never mind how are they going to hunt and fish when there is none, and how long before we go the way of the dinosaur! The saddest thing about this problem we face today, it this at our own hands that is was made!!
OK I am off my soap box tonight!! Make some inquires with the local authorities!! They can do more to point you in the right direction for your area!!
The latex they break it all down to the components that make up latex paints. It is then sold back to a company who uses the recycled base to make new latex paint, add color as needed!!
Most SDS's do not tell you how to, they tell you where to!! In other words take it to a qualified chemical handler!!
You had a double post, Bjmac, in the one you asked about the quench water. Even though it is water, it now contains all the by products of quenching a piece of steel, IE oil the was on the metal, furnace cement if that is what you use, etc. etc. Given the by products that may be now in the quench water, it may not be proper to expect the aquafer to separate and cleanse the water!!
One of my pet peeves' is batteries. They all contain chemicals that do not go into our landfills. However there are few places you can, (dispose of them properly). Which is basically, the legal mumbo jumbo the manufacturer has to say, to cover their hiney's!! Some of the big box store have disposal bins but, those are more for the batteries of the tool variety and I have been told not to put your flashlight batteries in there!! So every day when we change the batteries in our remotes or smoke alarm or the any of the other 10,000 things that have gone to battery now days. We do what is the normal, and, throw them in our trash bag at the house!! If they truly want to do the right thing they need recycle stations with easy access!
Like I said in the first post I am not a tree hugger but it is pretty undeniable that our environment is changing! Whether you believe in Global Warming or not you have to ask yourself what happened to the ice that the polar bear depended on for so many years. Why are the sea levels rising and at this point are my grandchildren going to have to wear gas masks one day to be able to walk outside. And never mind how are they going to hunt and fish when there is none, and how long before we go the way of the dinosaur! The saddest thing about this problem we face today, it this at our own hands that is was made!!
OK I am off my soap box tonight!! Make some inquires with the local authorities!! They can do more to point you in the right direction for your area!!
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Ty Adams
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C Craft I was trying to point out that every chemical needs to be handled differently. Each landfill can handle different chemicals based on how they are set-up. Our local landfill can handle a variety of different chemicals because it is lined pit, including batteries and mercury based products. Including mercury based bulbs like, florescent lights, and metal halide fixtures and bulbs. An SDS sheet maybe needed for your local landfill to decide if they can handle the chemicals that you have. Here is a break down of the 16 components of a SDS sheet. Section 13 has to give a recommendation on proper disposal. The old MSDS style of data sheets had no specified disposal recommendations by law. If it's not on the SDS sheet contact the manufacturer, by law they have to give you the information on disposal or any hazards that are present when using said chemical.
- SECTION 1: Identification of the substance/mixture and of the company/undertaking
- 1.1. Product identifier
- 1.2. Relevant identified uses of the substance or mixture and uses advised against
- 1.3. Details of the supplier of the safety data sheet
- 1.4. Emergency telephone number
- SECTION 2: Hazards identification
- 2.1. Classification of the substance or mixture
- 2.2. Label elements
- 2.3. Other hazards
- SECTION 3: Composition/information on ingredients
- 3.1. Substances
- 3.2. Mixtures
- SECTION 4: First aid measures
- 4.1. Description of first aid measures
- 4.2. Most important symptoms and effects, both acute and delayed
- 4.3. Indication of any immediate medical attention and special treatment needed
- SECTION 5: Firefighting measures
- 5.1. Extinguishing media
- 5.2. Special hazards arising from the substance or mixture
- 5.3. Advice for firefighters
- SECTION 6: Accidental release measure
- 6.1. Personal precautions, protective equipment and emergency procedures
- 6.2. Environmental precautions
- 6.3. Methods and material for containment and cleaning up
- 6.4. Reference to other sections
- SECTION 7: Handling and storage
- 7.1. Precautions for safe handling
- 7.2. Conditions for safe storage, including any incompatibilities
- 7.3. Specific end use(s)
- SECTION 8: Exposure controls/personal protection
- 8.1. Control parameters
- 8.2. Exposure controls
- SECTION 9: Physical and chemical properties
- 9.1. Information on basic physical and chemical properties
- 9.2. Other information
- SECTION 10: Stability and reactivity
- 10.1. Reactivity
- 10.2. Chemical stability
- 10.3. Possibility of hazardous reactions
- 10.4. Conditions to avoid
- 10.5. Incompatible materials
- 10.6. Hazardous decomposition products
- SECTION 11: Toxicological information
- 11.1. Information on toxicological effects
- SECTION 12: Ecological information
- 12.1. Toxicity
- 12.2. Persistence and degradability
- 12.3. Bioaccumulative potential
- 12.4. Mobility in soil
- 12.5. Results of PBT and vPvB assessment
- 12.6. Other adverse effects
- SECTION 13: Disposal considerations
- 13.1. Waste treatment methods
- SECTION 14: Transport information
- 14.1. UN number
- 14.2. UN proper shipping name
- 14.3. Transport hazard class(es)
- 14.4. Packing group
- 14.5. Environmental hazards
- 14.6. Special precautions for user
- 14.7. Transport in bulk according to Annex II of MARPOL73/78 and the IBC Code
- SECTION 15: Regulatory information
- 15.1. Safety, health and environmental regulations/legislation specific for the substance or mixture
- 15.2. Chemical safety assessment
- SECTION 16: Other information
- 16.2. Date of the latest revision of the SDS
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Doug Lester
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Just a side note, the Crying Indian was Italian. We still need to dispose of our chemicals properly though.
Doug
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Bruce McLeish
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Thanks for the responses, fellers. I guess that there isn't an easy answer for this question, so I will do some due diligence and find out some specific answers and report back to y'all.
Bj
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