Mark Barone
Well-Known Member
I don’t have a forge or an anvil. i have kiln. Am I able to get a hammered look on a cleaver I am making. How long can I hammer a piece of steel beore it cools down too much?
Thanks Chris, another question. The hammer I have right now is an old one. Sledge on one side, ball on the other. The ball side is about the size of a ping pong ball. Good? I’ll buy another one if I have too. I can test also on scrap.Well you do not have to heat it up as long as it has been annealed. Just leave it cold and use a ball peen to hammer mark it up all you wish. Now I am not talking coming from downtown with your blows keep them just enough to mark the steel well. Anything can be an anvil of sorts. A big hard surface is all that is needed to mark it up.
While this is true, heat will help make it easier. Any time you are beating on cold steel hard enough to deform it you are risking stress fractures, and depending on the steel may or may not be something to worry about.Well you do not have to heat it up as long as it has been annealed.
This is going to hold true for most steels that are usable for blades..... it's called "work hardening" The more you hit it, the more it will work harden, and the more likely fractures. It would be painfully slow, but you could always heat it in the kiln, hammer, repeat.Any time you are beating on cold steel hard enough to deform it you are risking stress fractures
If it bends I would heat it to straighten for sure.I would bet it will warp like nothing ever before warped if you hit it cold, flatten it back out cold, then HT it.
Mark I apologize I went into blacksmith mode there for a minute. It is quite common in blacksmithing now-a-days to hammer mark up your work and because we deal with mainly mild steel it is done cold or at black heat sometimes. Although I do not think light blows will crack up a properly annealed piece of steel I forgot about work hardening which may have an impact. Again, not an issue with mild steel. Do you have a torch? If not Ed may have the best solution. Heat it to forging color remove, hammer mark lightly till near black heat and repeat. No hard hits after the red glow ends. When you are done make sure it is still straight. Sorry again. It is funny though that hammer marks in the old days was the sign of poor quality, sloppy work. Now it is desired. Go figure.
Yep, that's always been my thinking and work really hard to remove ALL forging marks. I guess that's why they make chocolate and vanilla ice cream?It is funny though that hammer marks in the old days was the sign of poor quality, sloppy work. Now it is desired. Go figure.
Exactly, AFTER I spent a lot of time learning hammer control and technique the hammer marks are what people want now.really hard to remove ALL forging marks.
you beat me to it!My neighbor achieves the hammered look by beginning drinking at 2-3pm on a Saturday.... By 10 pm he's nailed it! (sorry...couldn't resist..lol)