Going for the plunge?

[John Wilson]

I'm sure John and I did the same thing.....fumbled around with it until we found a way!

Chances are I read about your way of doing this a few years back and adopted it. I am a shameless adopter of techniques that will reduce my suffering!

 

[Chris Railey]

just wanna make sure I can spare others the grief I've already experienced!

That is why I listen to you sir.