Still workin on my slipjoint abilities and had to try my hand at some more difficult to work handle materials. Held my breath the whole time, but got them together without splitting or cracking. Can't believe it...my luck usually runs the other way. Absolute proof that a blind hog can find an acorn once in a while. Ebony one is 4" closed and the ivory is just over 3 5/8" closed. Both with CPM-154 blades and backsprings. Thanks for the look! -Phil