An epic weekend with Jim and Ed

Travis Fry

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****PICTURES ADDED AT END OF THREAD!****

As some of you may remember, I moved to Canada from Texas last March for a year. It was a good work opportunity, but it meant (I thought) leaving knives behind for the whole time I was here. And then I met Jim (Boatbuilder here on KD), and that changed everything. Since we first met in January, I've been able to go spend 3 long weekends working in his amazing shop, eating his amazing wife's amazing food, and enjoying the whole family's truly amazing hospitality (there's a theme here). The first trip was to a hammer-in Jim put on, where I got to hang out with Bruce Bump, Steve Culver, and J. Nielson. Yep, it was as cool as it sounds. The second trip it was just me, Jim, and another maker named Jay, and Jim taught me how to make damascus. We forged a lot of it, and a friendship as well. This weekend was the third, and I'm pretty sure it was the best yet.

First best part (these aren't in order, necessarily), Ed Caffrey came up for the whole weekend. While the hammer-in with Bruce and Steve and J was cool, there were 40-50 other folks there, which diluted the personalized coolness. This weekend it was just me and Jim and Ed, which allowed the coolness to compound.

Another best part, from Friday evening to early Monday afternoon we spend about 35 hours in the shop making damascus. Ed made up 3 or 4 cans of mosaic. I made up 3 billets for variations on Ws. I lost track of what all Jim was working on. Ed helped me refine my welding technique, and worked with me on my Ws to make sure I got the pattern going right. I twisted one of my Ws billets, and the other two were cut into tiles and mig welded together for the final weld, but I ran out of time and will finish them another day.

Further greatness: we welded up 8 or 10 billets (I never actually counted) of cable damascus. With Orange Crush, Jim's 80 ton press (not a typo, 80) and his nifty electric billet twister, we got them all done in about an hour and a half. The results were some of the cleanest cable welds Ed had ever seen, or so he said, and I can't wait to see how they look made into a knife.

Yet another best part: forging blades with Ed Caffrey. I had only ever forged 2 or 3 blades before (and most never got finished), and I was not really happy with the results. A quick demo from Ed, and then a few pointers for feedback during my first attempt and I was on my way. Lessons learned: 1) stand closer to the anvil, 2) a power hammer is very nice to have for drawing out tangs, 3) leave it a lot thicker than you think you should, 4) the point where the returns gained by forging closer to shape start to rapidly diminish comes a lot earlier than I expected. With a little practice, I'm well on my way. This is good and bad. I've made about 110 knives or so, only one of which was actually forged. I've been content to have forging off somewhere in the distant future. I am no longer. So that's another thing I need to spend money on. Sigh...

Another good part was helping to teach one of Jim's distant relations (who just turned 18) how to make a knife. Jim got him started a while back, and I took him through the post heat-treat grinding and blade polishing. It was nice to give back and teach someone all the junk that other folks have taught me.

And finally, Jim's family is great. They always treat me like I belong, like they want me there, and like they want me to come back. I've rarely been so well taken care of, or made to feel so welcome.

Overall, it was a great weekend. I got burns, cuts, and blisters, smashed my thumb in a clamp, am sore in almost every place in my upper body, my feet STILL hurt, and it will be at least a week before I get caught up on sleep, but it was worth it. Many, many, many thanks are due to Jim for his generosity and hospitality, and likewise to Ed for freely sharing his time and knowledge.

If I can figure out how to get pictures from my phone to here, I'll post a few later.
 
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Cool weekend for sure. So much for all the stock removal stuff, forging is highly addictive. A weekend of forging Mosaic damascus I'm jealous.
 
Great experiences. I hope to get up to Montana for one of those events some day.
 
Sounds like some great learning experiences with a great group of makers.

And you thought it was all over for a year? LOL.
 
Just shows that good things like that also happen in Canada due to good people like Jim making it come about. Frank
 
I know exactly what you're saying about Jim and Bev. They are fine folks and willing to share anything they have. They were given a triple portion of kindness.

Glad to hear Ed is up and around for that trip. He must be feeling much better.

Maybe we could see a few of the billets sometime here?
 
few pictures of the weekend

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Travis,
Way to go!
Some people wait for opportunity,
Some search it out.
Way to search and learn.
Keep us posted. (pun intended)
My Best, Dozier
 
And now with some pictures:

I finally figured out how to get pictures from my phone to my website and then to here, so here goes:

Ready to flux:

billet stack.jpg

This is the first restack of a Ws billet after the initial weld, draw, and crush.

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Ed is drawing out a rod of pen barrel stock. I think it was small twist billet with 1080 and pure nickel, to be turned and made into writing implements.

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When you MIG weld the ends of a piece of cable (so that it doesn't come apart) prior to forge welding into a bar, you get birthday candles!

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As mentioned, I did some blade forging with Ed.

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Here are some of the results:
Preform done on a san mai bowie:

san mai bowie preform.jpg

Same knife, forging done. This is maybe my 5th blade I've ever tried to forge. I'm pretty happy with the results:

san mai bowie forged.jpg

And here it is after grinding and normalizing. Got to heat treat it and do all the rest, some of which won't likely happen until I get back to Texas:

San mai bowie ground.jpg

A few others. The top on is my first after Ed's quick demo.:

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And during the downtime I finished this one that I started back in Texas:

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Like I said, it was a very fun and very busy weekend! Again, many thanks to Jim and Ed for their time, generosity, and friendship.
 
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Wow, Travis, you made the best of your time there. I think I counted 17 bars of steel in various stages. No wonder youre tired out. Thats a lot of work. Need more pictures as they develop into patterns and knives.
 
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