Need a bit of help with AEBL

wall e

wall e

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I traded off some of my acquired planer blades for a grab bag of known steels one of which is AEBL. I want to make a kitchen knife to send to a buddy on NZ an the only way it will work is if its a kitchen knife at the size and dimensions he wants. Also want to make a pair of paring knives out of the remaining piece.
I was wondering if there is any one who can either ht the 3 blades for me or can suggest a place to have it ht at for the poor mans price range.
Its only .078 thickness.
Am not looking for charity just help or advice if Im jumping into the deep end of known steels.
Heres the layout I used a similar pattern to a blank I got from Mr Doyle for the paring knives. As always gruff advice is expected and general advice is welcome too.
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Walt, I like the looks of the paring knife design - my question here to clear up a bit. Do you plan to cut the profiles, grind profile only, then send to someone for HT, then you to grind bevels after HT? That would be my suggestion on thin blades.

Now, for HT, do you require cyro (LN), sub-zero (dry ice), or just freezer (5ºF)? The cost of HT will depend on which you require. AEB-L is VERY similar to Sandvik's 13C26 and Sandvik says cyro does not benefit 13C26 over dry ice treatment - of course, as in most things there are folks who do not agree.

Ken H>
 
That is the plan to attempt to minimize warpage by grinding bevel post ht. As far as the cryo Im a lost soul. All I known is what I have read on here an most seem to be pro chilled steel for AEB-L. I just want to make the best I can and am thinking of getting a bit more input on the chilling procedure. The plan is to just make kitchen use knives. Not too sure what the sub freezing will help with exactly for them as of yet. Eagerly waiting to find out. I had an epiphany at 1130 pm cleaning up my catch all box by the desk/finish area. And there was a piece of AEB-L and my templates and a 11" stick of 1.5 or 2" wide 52100 Lol is 5/16 thick I believe, so it may be destined to be a chopper with some unicorn bolsters and depleted uranium scales.
 
"depleted uranium scales"??? Now, THAT is interesting. I'd like to know more about how those work for scales. Are they not very dense 'n heavy.... like lead? What type of material is this depleted uranium? Is it not lead like?

Darrin I think does LN treatment and does some HT'ing for other folks and is VERY reasonable with his prices and will do a good job.
 
The depleted uranium scales,unicorn horn bolster, on a feather dascus folder, is a wide eyed over eager maker joke J.Doyle made with me when I was thinking beyond my skill set. In reality it is a very dense material, it is a material used for the M1 Abrams 120mm sabot rounds.
Will try to get in touch with Darrin this coming week.
 
OK, now I re-read the last sentence and see " some unicorn bolsters and depleted uranium scales. " I just didn't pick up on the "unicorn bolsters" part of the "depleted uranium scales", nor the icon after. I was thinking that would not work in the real world, but was too polite to say it bluntly.

I'm a little slow on Sat, but really slow on Monday {g}

Ken H>
 
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Here is the current status of the idea. The second paring knife down is .5 longer and has a thumb divot in the spine. It grew on me so I didn't grind ut out.
A piece of drop screamed kiridashi, so I trimmed a bit (.5)off the tip. Lol
 
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Walt, be SURE you drill any and all holes in tang BEFORE HT - it will get HARD after HT {g}

Those look good - I especially like the paring knives.
 
Walt, I like the thumb bump on the paring knife better than without. Looks kind of cool. It's probably not cool to question another makers designs, but I would like to make a friendly suggestion. Feel free to tell me to take a flying leap, but I'm not good at keeping my mouth shut. Consider the quick edit I did to your pick below, I'm just not a fan of the blocky, triangular tip. Sorry.
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Anthony, thanks for the opine. The chunky triangle tip is what my buddy in New Zealand wants, it is why I left that 1/8" of steel there.
 
Ken, I was just thinking about that. I definately plan on drilling BEFORE ht. Thank you for the reminder.
 
HELP HELP HELP!!!
Ok so is there a maker on here who is seeing this that does ht AEB-L?
Darrin S only does oil hardening steels.
 
1975 degrees in a foil pouch,plate cool,2 hours in LN, 2times2 temper at 375 will give you 61
30 minutes at 1975
 
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Did you find some help on the HT of these already? If not. shoot me a PM and we will get ya all hooked up!
 
Mike if I had an oven the would be the best help I could ask for. Sorry I didnt clarify in the first posting of what help was needed.

HHH Knives said:
Did you find some help on the HT of these already? If not. shoot me a PM and we will get ya all hooked up!
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Will do thanks so much.
 
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