With some work you can make your own too if you'd like.. I made one myself . I started by buying a 20 ton press from harbor freight . I then remodified it by installing an ele motor and a hydro pump. I replaced the piston with a 20 ton piston instead of the bottlr jack type, added a valve and did some welding.. You can take a look at it on my thread called " I made my first piece of damascus " I had a few mstakes that i need to corect . need to beef up a few spots , but other then that , it worked ok. Go to my page and click on that thread just to take a peek at it.