Oops forgot. Yes, I would recommend the Cactus Juice. It does work and it works well. I have been playing with a variety of different stuff for stabilizing for a couple of years. The best info I have come across is the thread Tracy started in the main forum. He did an excellent job with it and saved a lot of folks (including me) a lot of time and wasted efforts. The set up is not too expensive. Really, all you need is a vacuum pump, a vessel, tin foil, cactus juice, and a toaster oven.