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Thread: Tiller tines

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    Tiller tines

    This past weekend I did the Washington Knife Show in Kelso. Just about everyone that knows me knows I'm a sucker for old steel. Anyway a fellow I have know from shows since I first started making gave me a box of tiller tines that were marked with Ortulan stamped on each blade. Anyway I emailed this one outfit and they hadn't the slightest idea as to what the steel was. The fellow said that Ortulan would contract out the blades and then they would put there mark on them. Here's a list of steel that I'm pretty sure they aren't: 10 series, 5160, 52100, L-6 and the W series. My thoughts are now that I own the best steel ever for making knife blades. First picture has what the original tine looked like before I annealed and flattened them out. Also a picture of the first blade that is totally heat treated. I hardened the blade in Texaco Type A slow quench and it hardened up fine and did a 400 degree temper. Part of the deal for these blade was for me to make the giver a knife out of them.




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    When you "the best steel ever for making knife blades" do you mean toughness and edge holding ability? How hard are they to work? The knife, naturally, is beautiful. Can't wait to see what you do with the guard and handle, but so far, so good Ray!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ddavelarsen View Post
    When you "the best steel ever for making knife blades" do you mean toughness and edge holding ability? How hard are they to work? The knife, naturally, is beautiful. Can't wait to see what you do with the guard and handle, but so far, so good Ray!
    Dave, Just been blowing smoke about the best steel ever for knives but my thought are its really good steel. I really can't figure out why these tines were even changed. They look almost brand new to me. The fellow that gave me the tines is wanting to give the knife to his 104 year old Dad which he has been taking care of. I'm sure it won't see any use through him. I started the sheath for it last night and will have it done shortly. Here's a photo I took of the knife yesterday. The blade is just over 5" and the whole knife is 10".

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    That's a beauty Ray!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Killgore View Post
    That's a beauty Ray!
    Peter, Good to see you around. Are you in college now? Been having fun and really enjoying this project. I'm really wanting to experiment with this steel now.
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    Ray, yeah, I'm down at OSU right now. Wasn't able to bring the forge and anvil sadly... : / It looks like a fun project you have going. I think it's pretty cool how you can get so much out of NI steel as I've heard you call it.

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    Peter, You've got a better memory than me. Glad you in college. The Beavers are doing great in football! Really surprised in a good way.

    I made a major discovery in my search to find out what steel the tines are. I'd found a place locally that would do the testing. After the fellow quoted me a price it helped job my brain. I remembered I had some O-1 that I'd forgot about. I sparked it and then I sparked the tine and the spark was almost identical. Funny the heat treat I did was about perfect for O-1. I knew it was good steel but I didn't think it was that good. Anyway I called that fellow that quoted me the price and thanked him for jogging my brain. Nice to know there is help here if I need it.
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    Finished up the knife and sheath yesterday. Just forged another blade from this new steel. It sure does forge nice. This is a real senior citizen steel.



    Last edited by Raymond Richard; 01-03-2013 at 03:14 PM.
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    Man that's a NICE package! The old gentleman is going to love it.
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    Here's the second completed tiller knife. Used a piece of masur birch which is also called curly birch. Ran out of my usual leather so the finish coat on this sheath is buckskin.


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