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Raymond Richard
03-30-2010, 12:49 PM
Doing that Cohea Dag was for sure a detour. Now I find myself going down another side road. The goal is for one short sword but if I have to settle for two daggers I'll be happy. Back when Aldo Bruno started getting into his steel business he came about several tons of 1 X 1/4 1084. I ended up getting several sticks of this steel and for the most part its just sat in my shop collecting dust. After I forged John's dagger I was thinking of other ways to improve the forge finish and one thing I came up with was wanting to try a narrower piece of steel so I went with the 1" material. I also went with just the flat of the hammer instead of using a cross peen like I have been doing. The first picture is after the first forging session. Second picture the forging is all done and hopefully it remains straight. Heat treating is planed for later today.

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Eli Gautreaux
03-30-2010, 03:58 PM
Oooh, a SLENDER one? I think I'm going to like this Ray. Same handle material?

Raymond Richard
03-30-2010, 04:16 PM
Oooh, a SLENDER one? I think I'm going to like this Ray. Same handle material?

Eli, right now the plan is going to be real similar to what I made for John. I just ran normalizing cycles and plan to harden shortly. I hope to have a nice straight blade and just one piece. I'm also going to run two smaller dagger blades to. Good chance I'll have at least one blade turn out. :D

LR Adkins
03-30-2010, 07:55 PM
Looking good so far Ray.I really admire your work and can't wait to see it finished. I haven't made a sword in years, wouldn't mind making another one someday.

Larry

Eli Gautreaux
03-30-2010, 08:04 PM
Make it a set Ray :D

Raymond Richard
03-30-2010, 08:53 PM
Almost done with the 1st heat treat cycle. I've had to do a fair amount of straightening and everything is still in one piece. I'll take a closer look after the blades cool off. They look pretty good. So far I'm not cross eyed but close.

murphda2
03-30-2010, 09:12 PM
Lookin good Ray. I look forward to seeing this project progress to completion.

Raymond Richard
03-31-2010, 12:00 PM
I pickled the 3 blades over night and used a wire brush in the drill press to clean them off some. Still more cleaning to do. I'm really happy with the way they turned out! The long blade at least to my eyes is as straight as can be. The other two aren't half bad either. I'm going to start with the big one first but may bring the middle one up at the same time. The long blade is 16 1/2". The middle one is just under 6".

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Stuart Willis
03-31-2010, 05:24 PM
Very nice Ray.

Eli Gautreaux
03-31-2010, 06:01 PM
16 1/2" ??? Wow, that's a big one indeed.

Gil Brown
03-31-2010, 06:34 PM
Looking good brother. I think you should make a set also. That would be something indeed.

Gil

mofretwell
03-31-2010, 07:24 PM
Ray, I'm sure glad you are doing a bunch of forge finished knives now. And forge finished d-a-g-g-e-r-s!! Hoo ha, they just get better and better.

I hardly ever see forge finished knives, other than yours, and you're now turning out a whole bunch of them. They look so good. I'll bet they get loads of attention at the knife shows. Especially your new 16 1/2 inch short sword.

We're in Vado, New Mexico tonight. Heading on to Big Springs, Texas tomorrow. Then to Duncanville, Texas on Friday to visit friends there for 3 days before we turn north to come up to your neck of the woods. Hoping to be to Vancouver by the 14th. Maybe the Springers will still be running?

Raymond Richard
03-31-2010, 07:45 PM
Marvin, Didn't get much done today. I took a closer look at the middle dagger blade and the tip was a little off so I decided to try and straighten. I snapped off about 3/4" but its fixable. I just need to take a couple steps backwards in the process. Nothing new for me. :D Been feeling like I'm coming down with a bug so I've just been taking it easy most the day.

Most likely the springers will be running but it doesn't mean we can fish for them. Have a safe trip!

NoahL
04-01-2010, 02:51 AM
Those are incredible! I can't wait to see them completed, especially that short sword

~Noah

Raymond Richard
04-03-2010, 10:46 AM
Those are incredible! I can't wait to see them completed, especially that short sword

~Noah

Hey Noah, I plan to post some progress pictures later today. I've had all the parts on the "shorty" for a couple days now. Its going through the ugly stage right now. Started shaping the guard last night before I called it a night. One side looks real good and the other not. If I can get both sides looking the same I'll call it good. :D

Raymond Richard
04-03-2010, 12:59 PM
Here's several progression pictures. Not the best photo's but things are getting done. :D

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I'm always getting asked how I do the grooves in my fittings. Here you go. Here's a picture of how I start the grooves. I've got an abrasive wheel chucked up in the drill press. If you attempt this make sure you work on the left side of the wheel so if the fitting gets hung up it throws it away from you. I get the grooves established using this method. Then I use the belt grinder and finish them off with a pine tree carbide burr in a rotary tool.

Just be aware while using the abrasive wheel that when the fittings get hung up and tossed they sometimes vanish.

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Eli Gautreaux
04-03-2010, 08:38 PM
Oh man RAY!!! This one is making me want to quit making and go back to collecting :D :D

Peter Killgore
04-03-2010, 08:55 PM
Ray, it looks like you've got two tang nuts on the end of that guy. What's with that? Does it just give a tighter bond when the epoxy sets?

I love the look of this one! I might try a forge finished knife here soon. Not that big though. I have a nice sized piece of leaf spring that I forged a tang on right before I ran out of propane:mad: but I think that will become something with a forge finish. Of course I had to get sidetracked again with building a new forge.....:rolleyes:

Raymond Richard
04-03-2010, 09:59 PM
Oh man RAY!!! This one is making me want to quit making and go back to collecting :D :D

Eli, I never told you to quit collecting. :D

Peter, I went with two nuts on this one and I'm not sure why. I also went with two nuts on the Cohea Dag also mainly because the butt cap was so wide that I thought it would make it a little more stable.

As for the forge finish I'm really liking it now that I know how to forge. :D I wish now I'd gone with 5160 instead of the 1084 since the 1084 pits more.

I've about got this one done. I may take a better picture later tonight or tomorrow morning. I see a little minor spots I'd like to correct before I get it epoxied.

John M Cohea
04-03-2010, 10:44 PM
That one is going to be a dandy Ray! Still like mine better though:D

Raymond Richard
04-03-2010, 11:26 PM
That one is going to be a dandy Ray! Still like mine better though:D

John, Yours is the one that started this one. Did you say you were going to be home on the 8th?

Here's a couple pictures of the new one. Its kind of skinny unlike John's. :D

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John M Cohea
04-04-2010, 05:59 AM
That's right Ray, I'll get home the 8th.Really like the looks of this one too Ray, even if it is on the skinny side:D

Raymond Richard
04-04-2010, 11:47 AM
That's right Ray, I'll get home the 8th.Really like the looks of this one too Ray, even if it is on the skinny side:D

I plan to take a picture of yours with the new one. I've got another preform already forged out of the same leaf spring as yours. I've got to hold off on any more forging. Mister Hand is needing a break. :D

John M Cohea
04-04-2010, 11:56 AM
I was hoping to see a side by side pic Ray!

Eli Gautreaux
04-04-2010, 12:01 PM
John, I love yours, but skinny does it for me too, so I'll look forward to a side by side of the two.

Ray, you've done it again! This knife is outstanding to say the least.

Raymond Richard
04-04-2010, 07:18 PM
Here's the Odd Couple. :D

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LR Adkins
04-04-2010, 08:44 PM
Outstanding, Ray, that is some good looking steel. I can't decide which one I like the best, they're both great.

Larry

Eli Gautreaux
04-04-2010, 09:06 PM
That's a great pic Ray. John's is fantastic, congrats again John.

The skinny one is spectacular too. Amazing work.

John M Cohea
04-04-2010, 10:23 PM
Thanks Eli! Only a few more days till I get to play with this beast! Ray, this is sorta like the Laurel and Hardy of double edged blades:D, and they are both truly works of art!I can't thank you enough for mine2thumbs

JAWilliams
04-05-2010, 09:47 AM
Great looking sword Ray.

Raymond Richard
04-05-2010, 11:15 AM
Thanks Eli! Only a few more days till I get to play with this beast! Ray, this is sorta like the Laurel and Hardy of double edged blades:D, and they are both truly works of art!I can't thank you enough for mine2thumbs

John, Today is "cardboard Monday". Time to make a box for Fatso. I'll get it in the mail tomorrow. :D

John M Cohea
04-05-2010, 12:12 PM
John, Today is "cardboard Monday". Time to make a box for Fatso. I'll get it in the mail tomorrow. :D

Can't wait Ray!!:D:D:D

mofretwell
04-05-2010, 07:35 PM
Fatso and Skinny are BOTH simply awesome. Way to go, Ray!

Raymond Richard
04-07-2010, 08:04 PM
I started working on one of the smaller blades this morning. Here's a couple of really bad pictures but these are just progress pictures. I really stuck with it today. I had to make a new point for this blade. I snapped it of last week during the straightening process. Actually it was a good brake since it made the new blade 5 15/16" long.

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Eli Gautreaux
04-08-2010, 07:11 AM
now you're talking Ray, that's a serious set you have going. I'm a total sucker for sets!!!