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Raymond Richard
12-14-2009, 04:05 PM
Been pretty cold since I got back home. Had to sacrifice a 5 gallon bucket so I could bust the ice off the hammers so I could forge. I also have a new computer which is great but I cannot get it to download from my camera. I tried my short bag of tricks but no luck yet. I'm waiting for spring to show up now.

Peter Killgore
12-14-2009, 06:16 PM
Did you grinder bucket freeze? Mine did. Funny what happens when it's only 7 degrees outside:eek: Things are warming up now. We actually got above 40 today. lol

Raymond Richard
12-14-2009, 06:29 PM
Did you grinder bucket freeze? Mine did. Funny what happens when it's only 7 degrees outside:eek: Things are warming up now. We actually got above 40 today. lol

Every bucket of water in my shop froze. Not 100% but real close. I broke one hammer handle off trying to free it from the ice bucket.

stabber
12-14-2009, 07:00 PM
I was wondering why you keep your Hammers in the bucket with Water? Keeps the handle tight(swollen)?

BossDog
12-14-2009, 07:14 PM
we need some pictures of your trip...

Peter Killgore
12-14-2009, 11:15 PM
Every bucket of water in my shop froze. Not 100% but real close. I broke one hammer handle off trying to free it from the ice bucket.

Hope it wasn't your favorite six pounder! I still don't know how you swing that thing like you do. I get tired after using the three pounder for to long.

Raymond Richard
12-14-2009, 11:41 PM
we need some pictures of your trip...

I really didn't get a whole bunch of pictures. There are a few down at the bottom of this page: http://knifedogs.com/showthread.php?t=3745&page=3 Now my new computer doesn't want to recognize my camera.

Eli Gautreaux
12-15-2009, 02:45 PM
Ray, we had a cold front blow through last night, dropped it from 69 all the way down to mid 50s, don't you feel sorry for us :D

Peter Killgore
12-15-2009, 10:52 PM
Boy, Eli, I really don't know how y'all can take those extreme temperature changes. :D
That cold, you could start like a cryogenics company and just let the stuff sit outside overnight. lol

I think you need to come back to Oregon for some goo ol' winter steelhead fishin'. There's nothing quite like temps in the low 20's and having to de-ice the guides on your rod ever 3 casts. Brrrrrrrrr. I might get out for some of that this weekend. Catch me a 15 pound winter steelie!!

Robert Mayo
12-16-2009, 04:59 AM
I know the feeling Ray my quench bucket at my grinder is done. I usualy forget to empty it a few times every winter so i have the local diner keep a stock pile for me.

Bob

Eli Gautreaux
12-16-2009, 06:53 AM
Boy, Eli, I really don't know how y'all can take those extreme temperature changes. :D
That cold, you could start like a cryogenics company and just let the stuff sit outside overnight. lol

I think you need to come back to Oregon for some goo ol' winter steelhead fishin'. There's nothing quite like temps in the low 20's and having to de-ice the guides on your rod ever 3 casts. Brrrrrrrrr. I might get out for some of that this weekend. Catch me a 15 pound winter steelie!!


I spoke too soon... We went hunting last night and I underdressed, ended up pretty cold toed and fingered by the time it was over, so much so that I let a deer pass because hot soup at home sounded better than dressing the deer in the cold, lol.

Peter Killgore
12-16-2009, 05:23 PM
Hope it wasn't that deer we all dream of. This was taken from my computer desk. http://knifedogs.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2618&d=1257302539

All these guys into virtual reality hinting games on the computer and I can actually do the real thing from the same place. The buck has the appaloosa pattern because it's part albino. I want that thing hangin' on my wall next year.

Raymond Richard
12-17-2009, 01:26 PM
Here's a project I started a few days ago. Sorry for such a large picture. I'm still having some problems with the new computer and they all have to deal with photo's. Not sure what to call this one but it does have a double bevel.

http://www.hawknknives.com/forums/IMG_1877.JPG

Eli Gautreaux
12-17-2009, 04:40 PM
That's sure different for you Ray --- can't wait to see what you come up with!

Robert Mayo
12-18-2009, 04:24 AM
Yes that is a little off beat ( pun intended ) for you Ray but it looks like it will be a wicked chopper.

Bob

jkf96a
12-18-2009, 09:10 AM
That looks like the last time I tried to forge a drop point hunter :)

Allen Newberry
12-18-2009, 09:53 AM
This could be interesting...

Raymond Richard
12-20-2009, 04:15 PM
Sorry again for such a large photo. I had my son over the other night to show me how to shrink the photo's down. Thought I had it under control but can't make it work now. I now have the strange looking blade basically done now. I've been doing some more forging on the spear. I plan to forge down the rest of the rebar into a shaft. Lots more work to do.

http://www.hawknknives.com/forums/IMG_1899.JPG

J.Chappell
12-20-2009, 04:24 PM
Ray,

That looks absolutely awesome! Have you any idea how you are going to handle it?

It looks like it may be a great camp piece.

J.

Raymond Richard
12-20-2009, 06:19 PM
Ray,

That looks absolutely awesome! Have you any idea how you are going to handle it?

It looks like it may be a great camp piece.

J.

James, Right now I'm planing on going with a guard/handle like the one that's on this knife:
http://www.hawknknives.com/forums/IMG_1608.JPG

Eli Gautreaux
12-20-2009, 08:40 PM
Ray, that blade turned out awesome! I'm not surprised.

Maybe having a few home cooked meals helped :)

Phil Dwyer
12-20-2009, 11:00 PM
Welcome back Ray. We missed ya! Thanks for those pix. They're priceless. What a peach (not you, your granddaughter)! You're okay too, but probably more like a grapefruit.


I really didn't get a whole bunch of pictures. There are a few down at the bottom of this page: http://knifedogs.com/showthread.php?t=3745&page=3 Now my new computer doesn't want to recognize my camera.

Robert Mayo
12-21-2009, 04:50 AM
Ray that is neat and will look great with a handle and fittings like the little dagger.
The spear is coming along nice it's going to be a big one eh!

Bob

Raymond Richard
12-21-2009, 01:29 PM
Photo problems have been a problem since I have been home. Been trying to teach an old dog a new trick. There can be a problem with that. At least now the pictures are smaller. I've been spending some time on the spear.

http://www.hawknknives.com/forums/IMG_1907.JPG

http://www.hawknknives.com/forums/IMG_1908.JPG

Peter Killgore
12-21-2009, 04:48 PM
That is looking really good Ray. I'm amazed by how precise your forging is. I have to grind to get a shape that close to what I want. Isn't that spear going to be a little heavy? :D Will you have to heat treat the whole thing so the "shaft" is strong and springy?

Raymond Richard
12-21-2009, 06:06 PM
That is looking really good Ray. I'm amazed by how precise your forging is. I have to grind to get a shape that close to what I want. Isn't that spear going to be a little heavy? :D Will you have to heat treat the whole thing so the "shaft" is strong and springy?

Peter, I will normalize the blade a couple times and call it heat treated. What I find out is most spears were not hardened probably because most were not carbon steel to begin with. I believe the forging to shape also adds to strength. It will be a little bit heavy but the balance will be where it belongs so the weight won't be a big issue. Here's a picture I took a could hours ago. When I'm done forging the shaft there will be around 8" of unforged rebar for the grip.


http://www.hawknknives.com/forums/IMG_1913.JPG

Eli Gautreaux
12-21-2009, 06:25 PM
That's going to be a cool piece Ray!

Peter Killgore
12-21-2009, 08:31 PM
I agree with Eli. That is going to be very cool! How long is it right now?

One more question. I think you told me this before but what is normalizing?

Eli Gautreaux
12-21-2009, 08:55 PM
Ray,

My brother brought over about 15 railroad spikes, this is what we did tonight --- a twisted butter knife :D

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i138/xamaneli/railroadspike.jpg

Raymond Richard
12-21-2009, 10:01 PM
I agree with Eli. That is going to be very cool! How long is it right now?

One more question. I think you told me this before but what is normalizing?

Peter, Right now it measures 48 1/2". By the time I finish forging it I think it could gain another couple inches.

Normalizing is heating the steel up to non magnetic and then letting it air cool. I helps relieve stresses that occur during forging.

Eli, Nice twisted butter knife!

Phil Dwyer
12-22-2009, 01:41 AM
Hey Ray, I like the looks of that wooden persuader peaking out from under the horn of the anvil. Say, it looks like you might need a patch on the roof as there seems to be a bit of snow settling one the floor there. :rolleyes:

Hee, hee, hee. Or should I say, ho, ho, ho!

Raymond Richard
12-22-2009, 02:19 PM
Hey Ray, I like the looks of that wooden persuader peaking out from under the horn of the anvil. Say, it looks like you might need a patch on the roof as there seems to be a bit of snow settling one the floor there. :rolleyes:

Hee, hee, hee. Or should I say, ho, ho, ho!

No snow yet. Pretty nippy in the shop and my arm is to sore to be doing much forging. Tuesday is a good day to loaf.........

Robert Mayo
12-23-2009, 05:18 AM
The spear is looking good Ray take care.

Bob

Raymond Richard
12-23-2009, 02:44 PM
I've got the bulk of the forging done now so things won't change much now. I still want to do a little decorative forging but I need to make some tools for that first. The spear finishes out at 50". Just the right length to poke yourself in the eye with. :D

http://www.hawknknives.com/forums/IMG_1921.JPG

Chuck Cook
12-23-2009, 05:39 PM
I like that, you taking a trip to Texas for some hunting?

Eli Gautreaux
12-23-2009, 06:32 PM
That's a cool idea Ray, wish I could handle that one to get a feel for the heft and balance. It sure looks like a winner.

Raymond Richard
12-23-2009, 09:00 PM
Eli. This is a Huntsville, Texas wild hog sticker. :D

Here's a detail shot of the grip. Its authentic........

http://www.hawknknives.com/forums/IMG_1923.JPG

Peter Killgore
12-24-2009, 12:39 PM
That's a cool looking grip there! How did you forge those small rings?

Raymond Richard
12-24-2009, 01:10 PM
That's a cool looking grip there! How did you forge those small rings?

I made a tool yesterday along the lines of Godzilla to forge in the rings. Just more rocket science. :D

Eli Gautreaux
12-24-2009, 08:36 PM
Eli. This is a Huntsville, Texas wild hog sticker. :D

Here's a detail shot of the grip. Its authentic........

http://www.hawknknives.com/forums/IMG_1923.JPG



Send it down ray and I'll see if it really works 2thumbs

Raymond Richard
12-24-2009, 09:58 PM
Send it down ray and I'll see if it really works 2thumbs

Eli, you now have the power's to forge one for yourself. I've been thinking of ideas to try and dress it up some.

ddavelarsen
12-26-2009, 10:25 AM
What a ride Ray! Thanks for sharing this cool work. I'm amazed the double temper lines on that first piece. If you described how you did that, I didn't catch it because I'm just looking at the pictures right now. Having been offline for several days put me very behind. Starting here kind of sets the tone for catching up. ;) I'm afraid it's all going to be downhill from here unless you have some more secrets I haven't come to yet...

Your spear is freakin great! I don't think there's anything that you can't make steel do, Ray. It's amazing. Can't wait to see the finished product in all its glory. Zowie! 2thumbs

More later,