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BossDog
11-09-2009, 11:54 AM
A few of the other forums have badge ID cards. This is so they can recognize other members at a knife show. Each would have the owners forum name on the badge card. The crack design team here (frstr8 aka Brian) has come up with some different versions. Our official colors are dark brown and burnt orange so he went with that.
Have a look, suggest, vote. We haven't a clue how to get these produced yet so if anyone knows about that, speak up...

Maybe none of these are the final version but it is a place to open some discussion:

#1
http://KnifeDogs.com/gallery/files/3/kdbadge1.jpg

#2
http://KnifeDogs.com/gallery/files/3/kdbadge2.jpg

#3
http://KnifeDogs.com/gallery/files/3/kdbadge3.jpg

#4
http://KnifeDogs.com/gallery/files/3/kdbadge4.jpg

Phil Dwyer
11-09-2009, 12:08 PM
When you say badge do you mean something that will fit in a plastic sleeve and get pinned to a shirt or jacket? If so, I believe a horizontal orientation would probably work better than a vertical one. At least that's what I'm used to seeing.

Or, do you mean it will be an actual metal badge like a button with a pin?

Or, maybe something more like a iron/sew on patch?

Phil Dwyer
11-09-2009, 12:12 PM
On a tangent:

Have you guys given thought to shrinking the amount of space the website header/banner takes up on the screen? Maybe the dog could be moved (and lowered) to the left of the title (flip the dog to face right) and all of it could be shrunken just a bit to free up more screen space for viewing the forums? Just a thought.

Josh Dabney
11-09-2009, 12:15 PM
BossDog,

Found this with a quick google http://www.idsuperstore.com/custom-card-printing-c-1269.html

Not sure how it works. you may have to take pre-orders to get each persons name on their card (maybey they'll let you pay for bulk and print as you go ???) A quick call could probably answer questions though. Didn't see a FAQ link.

Quick quote even for small orders seemed pretty reasonable to me. Check it out.

Out of those 4, #1 gets my vote

-Josh

SCALPHUNTER
11-09-2009, 12:19 PM
Excellent idea! Makes it easy to notice other members from distance and the badges would be an automatic "ice breaker", making it easier to get to know members you haven't met. Example # 1 has my vote, if we are choosing from the examples that are posted. I wouldn't think these badges would be too expensive. Just have any members who want one made, place an order with the info they want printed on it and "ante up" the cost. Then you send them out when you get them. I sell my Sheaths at a combo Antique Mall/Flea Market, an the dealers wear a "badge" similar to what you are showing that fit in a transparent "sleave" attached to a clip, so you can attach it to a pocket or on your collar, etc. The badges we use are approximately 4" long (not including the clip) and they have the Logo Info on one side, and whatever personal info you wish on the other. Keep us posted.

Antonio_Luiz
11-09-2009, 12:27 PM
Dear Boss Dog

Much as I appreciate your drawing abilities I find those particular logo's too Sylvester & Tweety Bird. I actually much prefer the one on your avatar because it's: sublte - ie not so "in your face"; slightly cryptic and also suitable for production in silver, pewter or enamelware.

Allen Newberry
11-09-2009, 12:33 PM
I think he is referring to the type of badge that is worn on a lanyard.

SCALPHUNTER
11-09-2009, 12:35 PM
Badges on a lanyard would be good too, in fact, probably better.

Frstr8
11-09-2009, 12:36 PM
My 2 cents on this is to keep it simple. Make it easy to read and easy to recognize. We could go all out and do layers and colors with little dog prints everywhere, it's endless. I tried to keep it simple.

As for vertical or horizontal, I live near a Navy base where everyone wears a badge every day, including my wife and almost everyone else I know. These are warn on lanyards around the neck usually and they hang vertical. It will work either way though, it just tends to hang better when worn vertical.

Having said all that what we want here is feedback. We will take all that and make a decision on a final design or 2 and go from there, so please let us know what you think!

As for the banner at the top of the page I'm not sure why it matters how big it is. The page scrolls down.

Josh Dabney
11-09-2009, 01:03 PM
Don't know about yall but a Dark Brown and burnt orange lanyards would fit the bill nicely! Maybe Jeff Pearse will chime in here.

-Josh

Ron Bendele
11-09-2009, 01:10 PM
Yes, I think this is a great idea. I would rather have a simpler one with just the KnifeDogs.com, logo and name and prefer the vertical one. Thanks in advance for all who will get this done.

Dan Pierson
11-09-2009, 01:33 PM
What I've seen at the sort of cons I attend most are ribbons with a sticky top that are attached to the actual convention badge.

Personally, I'd prefer a design without a cartoon dog on it...

Erin Burke
11-09-2009, 01:49 PM
Dear Boss Dog

Much as I appreciate your drawing abilities I find those particular logo's too Sylvester & Tweety Bird. I actually much prefer the one on your avatar because it's: sublte - ie not so "in your face"

Agree 100%... the big muscle-dawg as drawn seems cartoony to me. How 'bout something classy like a vintage bomber girl w/ a mean-looking dog. :p

Erin

Josh Dabney
11-09-2009, 01:56 PM
I think BossDogs Avatar would make a nice badge. It go well with the Dog Tags also.

-Josh

TKC
11-09-2009, 02:02 PM
I like the first one posted the best!! I like that idea of having a badge. GREAT job Brian.

murphda2
11-09-2009, 03:01 PM
To throw in my $.02......... I like the idea of having a K.D. Badge. I think it would be great for Blade or any other knife show that members might attend. However, I have to agree with the few who have chimed in about the "Doginator" image. I much prefer our original K.D. logo. I think the original logo is much classier.

Frstr8
11-09-2009, 03:31 PM
Thank you all very much for the feedback! The way things are lookin' maybe I watch too many cartoons? :D

Okay, let's try another angle. I did these up real fast based on the feedback so far. Please keep comments going, as my wife often says I have no feelings to hurt. :eek:

Here we go with the another style.


Set 2

#1
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e171/frstr8/KnifeDogs/KDBadge2b-Copycopy.jpg




#2
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e171/frstr8/KnifeDogs/NewBadge01copy.jpg



#3
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e171/frstr8/KnifeDogs/KDBadge2-Copycopy.jpg






Bring on the suggestions! 2guns

murphda2
11-09-2009, 03:39 PM
I think I would really like #2 with the same header "KNIFEDOGS.COM" as used on #1 and #3.

BossDog
11-09-2009, 04:33 PM
so we are on the same page, we are thinking a full color hard plastic type lanyard ID badge. These can often be oriented in both vertical and horizontal. Like anything, it's a just a matter of money. There is value in doing a front and back version, one horizontal and one vertical in case some one wants to orient the badge differently. If you wear it as lanyard, you go vertical. If you slip it inside of a plastic pass set up like they use at Blade, you would want the horizontal.

Here is one example to give you an idea. I think the USN guys have a connection to order them personalized for around 7 or 8 bucks each but I could be wrong.

murphda2
11-09-2009, 04:57 PM
In one of my former careers, I could have made these for us for about $.50 each. It's a shame I don't have access to that $3K printer anymore.

T.A. DAVISON
11-09-2009, 04:58 PM
Okay, let's try another angle.

Here we go with the another style.


Set 2

#1
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e171/frstr8/KnifeDogs/KDBadge2b-Copycopy.jpg




#2
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e171/frstr8/KnifeDogs/NewBadge01copy.jpg


Bring on the suggestion! 2guns

I like these a lot.........2thumbs2thumbs

Todd



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Brett Long
11-09-2009, 05:02 PM
Thank you all very much for the feedback! The way things are lookin' maybe I watch too many cartoons? :D

Okay, let's try another angle. I did these up real fast based on the feedback so far. Please keep comments going, as my wife often says I have no feelings to hurt. :eek:

Here we go with the another style.


Set 2

#1
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e171/frstr8/KnifeDogs/KDBadge2b-Copycopy.jpg




#2
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e171/frstr8/KnifeDogs/NewBadge01copy.jpg



#3
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e171/frstr8/KnifeDogs/KDBadge2-Copycopy.jpg






Bring on the suggestion! 2guns

i like #2

TKC
11-09-2009, 08:00 PM
I like # 2 the best, out of the second batch!! It would be great to have a badge to wear to my local knife shows!!

JAWilliams
11-09-2009, 08:34 PM
#2 from set 2.

Jeff Pearce
11-09-2009, 08:38 PM
Great idea. i could do some lanyards up and see how they look ...brian did a great job on the tags...

Sean Cochran
11-09-2009, 08:40 PM
This is a good idea, I like #2 out of the second set.

joe sangster
11-10-2009, 06:40 AM
I vote for # 2 of the second set also.

Joe

Allen Newberry
11-10-2009, 10:39 AM
I like #2 the best.

McClellan Made Blades
11-11-2009, 12:48 PM
Badges on a lanyard would be good too, in fact, probably better.

[SIZE="5"]I think the badges in the lanyard is perfect, as last year the badges for paid admission and table holders to the show were done the same way, all we have to do is print it up, and slide it into the passes provided by the show. Take out the show pass and turn it around to the back, put KD one in the front, as you only need the pass to get in, you can show that there, and PROUDLY display KNIFE DOGS on the front!!! And even better, anyone with a printer can pick the ones they want to use and customize them the way they want, keeping a general design, ie.burnt orange and brown, bull dog etc. Can't get cheaper than that!!! We would probably need to know the size of the lanyard tags they'll be using next year in advance. And those folks that attended last year who still have their lanyards from last year can use those in addition to their passes. Just my 2 cents worth of CHEAPNESS!!! Thats the way my creative juices flow!!!SIZE]

McClellan Made Blades
11-11-2009, 12:59 PM
I can see these in carved leather, too sweet!!! Rex


Thank you all very much for the feedback! The way things are lookin' maybe I watch too many cartoons? :D

Okay, let's try another angle. I did these up real fast based on the feedback so far. Please keep comments going, as my wife often says I have no feelings to hurt. :eek:

Here we go with the another style.


Set 2

#1
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e171/frstr8/KnifeDogs/KDBadge2b-Copycopy.jpg




#2
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e171/frstr8/KnifeDogs/NewBadge01copy.jpg



#3
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e171/frstr8/KnifeDogs/KDBadge2-Copycopy.jpg






Bring on the suggestions! 2guns

Wayne Coe
11-11-2009, 03:53 PM
I think the badges in the lanyard is perfect, as last year the badges for paid admission and table holders to the show were done the same way, all we have to do is print it up, and slide it into the passes provided by the show. Take out the show pass and turn it around to the back, put KD one in the front, as you only need the pass to get in, you can show that there, and PROUDLY display KNIFE DOGS on the front!!! And even better, anyone with a printer can pick the ones they want to use and customize them the way they want, keeping a general design, ie.burnt orange and brown, bull dog etc. Can't get cheaper than that!!! We would probably need to know the size of the lanyard tags they'll be using next year in advance. And those folks that attended last year who still have their lanyards from last year can use those in addition to their passes. Just my 2 cents worth of CHEAPNESS!!! Thats the way my creative juices flow!!!

I had been reading all of the comments and was planning to reply and suggest that we choose the one we want, print it on our personal computer and insert it into the ID that Blade furnishes. Looks like McLellan beat me to it. Or maybe I'll just insert a picture of my Shop Dog, Moe with a Knife Dogs caption.

Les Voorhies
11-11-2009, 04:40 PM
I like the USN style badges, A laminated badge with a hole to hook on a lanyard. Can't we find the stock to print these on and a budget laminater? I'll look around to see what I can find. I know one of the guys that makes them for USN, maybe I can talk to him.

TKC
11-11-2009, 05:39 PM
I also like the USN style too.

Les Voorhies
11-11-2009, 05:51 PM
My trigger finger is hovering on the checkout button on the needed supplies, I've found a laminator for $60 and 400 badge inserts and 100 laminating pouches (for a little more), I just need the go ahead from boss. The machine and 1st batch of supplies are on me but if we go this route the badges will probably cost $1- $2 to cover ink cartridges, supplies and shipping. I have the avery software on my computer so I'm going to test print some of the logos that have been posted until I hear from BossDogg.

EDIT:
http://lesvoorhiesknives.com/available/kd-badge-rs.jpg

JAWilliams
11-11-2009, 06:43 PM
Hey we lanyards for the great looking artwork.

Jeff Pearce
11-11-2009, 06:48 PM
Hey we lanyards for the great looking artwork.

As soon as i get caught up from my hunting trip i will work on some lanyards ...I also got some bull dog beads made up for knife lanyards.

BossDog
11-11-2009, 06:59 PM
I also like the USN badge...I was thinking they are the hard plastic ID badges with ink jet printing but I've never had/held a USN badge but I've seen enough of them from a (blurry) distance at Blade.

Frstr8
11-11-2009, 07:04 PM
My 2 cents on this is that I threw those up quickly for ideas. They could use a little cleaning up and the lettering needs work. If BossDog says this is the route to take I can do what I can to make them look better and maybe give people a few more choices.

Let me know what needs to be done by me if anything.

Allen Newberry
11-11-2009, 07:15 PM
This is sounding pretty cool!

murphda2
11-11-2009, 07:39 PM
In a past career, I was a security specialist/account manager contracted to an I.T. company. One of my duties was managing/auditing/editing thier access control database and making I.D. badges for thier 5000+ employees. When making the access control I.D. badges, we used a laminate sheet that we would print the company logo along with the employee's name and photo on. If we could acquire the laminate sheets to print these on, we could adhere them to plain card stock. The laminate is a self-adhering fairly heavy plastic sheet.

Les, I will PM you the details on the laminate stock so that you may determine if this is something you might be able to use.

Les Voorhies
11-11-2009, 08:27 PM
OK Murph has the right stuff here, what I was talking to Boss about would have been a laminated card (card stock insert hot laminated with 7mil plastic) but the link murph just sent me is for a sticker like front and back that sticks on to a plastic badge. It would not be as nice as a printed plastic badge but it would be better than a laminated badge (stiffer). The materials cost would be a little more than the laminated but not too much more and then I wouldn't have to buy a laminator.

I think since I was given the nod to produce these once the design is settled that maybe I should start a thread with a poll to see what people think of the options. I'll see if I can get that going before I go to bed tonight. Any objections?

Rusty McDonald
11-11-2009, 08:31 PM
BADGES! BADGES!!! WE DON'T NEED NO STINKING BADGES!!

lol just had to say it, now carry on.

BossDog
11-11-2009, 08:34 PM
I think Les has just become the Badge Boss.....


all in favor say Aye!


aye!

Allen Newberry
11-11-2009, 08:53 PM
Aye!

T.A. DAVISON
11-11-2009, 08:58 PM
Aye!

TA


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murphda2
11-11-2009, 09:04 PM
Aye

Congratulations Les. Boss couldn't have chosen a more qualified..........ummmm.........uhhhhh.........um mmmmm, what's the word I'm looking for???

Les George
11-11-2009, 09:05 PM
I think Les has just become the Badge Boss.....


all in favor say Aye!


aye!

done! :)

Jeff Pearce
11-11-2009, 09:17 PM
AYE on Les2thumbs

T.A. DAVISON
11-11-2009, 09:21 PM
ummmm.........uhhhhh.........ummmmmm, what's the word I'm looking for???

DOG!......... :p2thumbs

TA



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Les Voorhies
11-11-2009, 09:50 PM
:) I'm soooo confused, I've been looking at card making supplies until my eyes bleed!

I'm zeroing in on a plan, this should be fun :) I like the title.

JAWilliams
11-11-2009, 10:16 PM
Congrats Les. You da man.2thumbs

Jeff Pearce
11-11-2009, 10:28 PM
here's a sample of the bull dog beads .i will get some neck lanyards made up soon..


http://KnifeDogs.com/gallery/files/2/5/11222_008935_x_702.jpg

Les Voorhies
11-11-2009, 10:49 PM
those are cool beads.

Les Voorhies
11-11-2009, 11:32 PM
Badge poll HERE (http://www.knifedogs.com/showthread.php?p=27738#post27738)

Wayne Coe
11-12-2009, 05:00 AM
Look out!!! Here comes that train again.

murphda2
11-12-2009, 06:43 AM
You're right Wayne. I seen it comin this time! I wasn't close enough to the tracks to warn him though. :D

BossDog
11-12-2009, 06:49 AM
no volunteer will go unpunished!

Wayne, I've got my eye on you. What ever it is, it will present itself naturally. It's unavoidable Karma...

Wayne Coe
11-12-2009, 09:56 AM
OPPS!!!! I guess I better get outa here.
Boss, I am going to New Mexico Sunday for the rest of the month, no fair taking advantage of me while I'm gone.

I have signed the contract for the Build A Belt Grinder Workshop at the New England School of Metalwork for May 6 & 7, 2010. Cost of the workshop will be $900.00. Leave the school with a finished grinder ready to plug in and run. Enrollment will be limited to 10 to 15 grinders. Watch www.newenglandschoolofmetalwork.com for it to be posted and sign up early for an available space. I will post more later.