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BossDog
11-03-2009, 08:37 PM
We have our first donation towards a booth at the Blade Show....Frstr8 had a raffle and kicked 50 bucks as the first donating sponsor...he held a raffle and threw the proceeds our way. He is also our designated photo chopper. The logo at the top of the forum is his work.

I'll make this offer. If pack can raise enough for a booth at Blade, I'll have USAknifemaker.com buy a booth also. We'll have at least these 2 side by side for a little breathing room.

What we would like to see is a string of booths all joined together so we can have a heck of a time and tell our story loud and clear....

Maybe some of our forum owners or other members want to go in on a booth set up next to us? There is some time to think about it and make some plans..

I'm not sure how we can raise the funds for a KnifeDogs booth....or even if the group wants to. Any discussions or suggestions are welcome...

Sean Cochran
11-03-2009, 08:45 PM
Boss
I should be getting in some shop time soon, Ill volunteer to make a slipjoint to raffle but it may be a couple of weeks.

Sean

murphda2
11-03-2009, 09:37 PM
I have $200 towards a KD booth if I can advertise a veteran's charity. Any objections?

Boss, I'll PM details to you.

BossDog
11-03-2009, 11:43 PM
no objections, Murph explained it in a PM and it's a cause the dogs can get behind..

murphda2
11-04-2009, 09:59 AM
We have pledges of $250 plus proceeds from Sean's slip joint. That should put us at least halfway there. Not bad for an hour's effort last night. Anyone else?

BossDog
11-04-2009, 10:35 AM
John Barker just kicked in 25 bucks......
this looks like it's going to happen.

A couple of the forums have a presence at the show but I think we can bark louder.

stabber
11-04-2009, 10:47 AM
Put Us in for a Quarter T2thumbs

We can definitely Bark louderstogie

BossDog
11-04-2009, 11:02 AM
Stabber is in for 25...thanks..
You need to be wearing a KD shirt at least part of the time. Your entire wardrobe can't be Busse shirts....and you are going this year. make plans now.

John Barker
11-04-2009, 11:09 AM
T. ,
Ricky may have some Stabber's Bronx Forge shirts made up by then.;)
-John

murphda2
11-04-2009, 12:19 PM
I have an idea about some new K.D. wardrobe options that might be on the extremely affordable side. I'll make a few calls and see what I can come up with from some of my old suppliers I used to work with and get in touch with you Boss. Maybe we could make a "Blade Show Special" shirt or three.:D

Les Voorhies
11-04-2009, 12:34 PM
OK, I'd like to have a booth next to the dog kennel, I can't afford this booth on my own but I was already planing to spend the $475 on the table so if another maker or supplier wants to split a booth with me (or two others actually) then we can see about being linked up with the kennel. If that fails I'll kick in some money or a knife to help get the kennel going.

Les Voorhies
11-04-2009, 12:37 PM
one other thing, if I get 2 others to go in on a booth with me the three of us should be saving a little money, maybe we can pool that money and put an ad in blade or in the program for the show with the names of all who will be in the knife dog booths.

BossDog
11-04-2009, 12:49 PM
OK, I'd like to have a booth next to the dog kennel, I can't afford this booth on my own but I was already planing to spend the $475 on the table so if another maker or supplier wants to split a booth with me (or two others actually) then we can see about being linked up with the kennel. If that fails I'll kick in some money or a knife to help get the kennel going.

that is a good deal I think...

BossDog
11-04-2009, 01:15 PM
Announcing a promotion to SuperMod and KnifeDogs Blade Show Bosss: murphda2

Johnny, tell our audience what murhpda2 wins!

Well, murphda2 is now the proud owner of spiffy new title in red. He can ban users with a wave of his pinky finger. He can kill SPAM messages with just a look. The pay is NOTHING but he gets to have fun doing that.

And that's not all!

He gets the privilege of wrangling a lot of details around a creating a big KnifeDogs presence at the Blade Show in Atlanta. He will be handling the pledge drive for our booth and handling other details as he is able. He also has committed to buying us all the beer we can drink while we are there. (I made that last part up).

Thanks to Murph for really stepping up. 2thumbs

John Barker
11-04-2009, 01:23 PM
Congrats murphda2! Sounds like a winner to me!
-John

Les George
11-04-2009, 01:38 PM
sucka! :)

Rusty McDonald
11-04-2009, 01:45 PM
There goes the neighborhood!smilebanned1Short Bus

Bill Coye
11-04-2009, 02:29 PM
Rock on Murph!

BC

Frstr8
11-04-2009, 02:44 PM
Way to step up Murph! You are the man!

Now get to banning!

ban1

Wayne Coe
11-04-2009, 03:13 PM
Murph, Did you hear the whistle before the train ran over you?

murphda2
11-04-2009, 03:53 PM
Wayne, the engineer forgot to blow it til just a split second before he flattened me to the track.

Thank you for the opportunity and having faith I can do the job Boss. Rusty, I have a special shock collar on order to keep you in line.

Rusty McDonald
11-04-2009, 04:09 PM
Woof!
stogiestogie

Denny Eller
11-04-2009, 04:25 PM
Congrats, Murph. Pull this one off and soon you'll make General.

BossDog
11-04-2009, 07:29 PM
Great Lakes Waterjet and Midwest Knifemakers Supply have agreed we will go in on a booth adjoining the KnifeDogs booth. We are going to see if we can get a couple others lined up with us and then reserve a block of booths.

murphda2
11-08-2009, 08:53 AM
According to the information posted by Chuck, a booth at Blade will cost us $1125. Boss and Dave have decided to spring for one booth and my current calculations of pledges say we are at about 80% for our first booth.

Realistically, how many booths do we want to shoot for having? I've never been to Blade, but I'm thinking we need at least four for a good kennel (four makes a square).

Currently we have seven months til Blade. Unlike most projects I work on, I really don't want to procrastinate on this one. Any and all ideas you dogs may have on how we can make this the most fun legally allowed are welcome. Of course, Boss will be the final decision maker.

Ideas that have come up so far:

1. Knife Dogs after hours, maybe we'll call it the "Dog Pound". We can try to find a suitable establishment for commercial supply of adult beverages or make it a B.Y.O.B. event. Either way, I'm a "Safety Nazi" and highly encourage a "D.D." program of some kind. We may be able to look into a group rate at a local hotel to help accomodate this.

2. Special Edition K.D. shirts for Blade. (I'm thinking maybe even a few "Knife Pup" shirts for the Little Dogs).

Dogs that are planning to attend Blade and purchase thier own table or booth, Les Voorhies has expressed interest in sharing either with another maker. If there are more Dogs out there that may want to do this, drop me a line and I can try to compile a list so that you guys/gals can link up to do this and be included in the Kennel.

Please feel free to throw all ideas into the bowl. We are gonna need to raise more $$$ to make this project happen and I would really like to see us get things planned and organized early. Thank you to those who have contributed thus far:

Frstr8
Sean Cochran
John Barker
Stabber
Boss/GLWJ
Bill Coye

Les Voorhies
11-08-2009, 09:32 AM
John Barker contacted me about sharing a booth, I was going to ask a friend of mine if he want's to go in on the both but I'm thinking I might talk to Les George first because he's a forum owner here and then we would have 3 forum owners in a booth. I'll shoot the PM to Les now while I'm thinking about it.

BossDog
11-08-2009, 11:43 AM
There is a large gathering area in the attached Waverly hotel called the Pit. There is an adjacent bar and the hotel usually sets up a satellite bar. Most groups just tend to end up there and mill around. Last year there seemed to be another several hundred outside milling around also. Most stay at the Waverly or walk over to the nearby Sheraton. Other than that, Taxi's are right out front.

A special edition shirt would be good and could be sold in advance or at the booth.
I have talked to two other forum owners that are interested in going together on a booth. They have to do some checking/thinking and will let me know.

The booths generally line the perimeter walls but I would bet we could get them to configure us a large island block also.

Bill Coye
11-08-2009, 12:31 PM
John Barker contacted me about sharing a booth, I was going to ask a friend of mine if he want's to go in on the both but I'm thinking I might talk to Les George first because he's a forum owner here and then we would have 3 forum owners in a booth. I'll shoot the PM to Les now while I'm thinking about it.

I would be willing to split a table with some one.

:)

BC

Les Voorhies
11-08-2009, 03:53 PM
I would be willing to split a table with some one.

:)

BC

Aight Bill, I just talked to my friend and he's not even sure he's going, so if you want the slot I'd be happy to have you and I suspect John would be too. We'll have to figure out what we need to do next.

Les Voorhies
11-08-2009, 03:56 PM
BTW, Les G has a table he likes and want's to keep it, it reminded me that I really like the table I was at the last 2 years, but I think the kennel is going to be cool :)

BossDog
11-08-2009, 04:09 PM
At this point, we are 'nearly in' for adjoining booths. That makes us as big as the engravers set up and Busse which are the biggest I think....

Les George
11-08-2009, 04:47 PM
That and it's already paid for.... ;)

Josh Dabney
11-08-2009, 05:05 PM
I've got a couple ideas/suggestions and info for the show

1. This is gonna be AWESOME ! Oh back on topic

2. After the fiasco with the event planners last year it may be a good idea to try to contact them and get a response on the chances of putting together our Kennel (No idea if the booth assignments work the same way that maker tables get assigned)

3. It would be sweet if we could arrange a knife display at one of our booths so folks like myself who'll have 1 or 2 knives will have a shot at getting a little exposure. Offering them for sale may be too much to keep straight moneywise with a buch of different members, but displaying knives with their contact # would be great.

4. We've got amazing talent here so perhaps an OFFICIAL KD collaboration knife to raffle off during the show is in order ? Proceeds could go towards Blade Show 2011 booths, or paying off the BB's :)

5. Last year Me, DCknives, & Mrs.DC stayed here-

Hampton Inn & Suites Atlanta-Galleria
2733 Circle 75 Parkway, Atlanta, Georgia, USA 30339
Tel: +1-770-955-1110 Fax: +1-770-955-1154

It is hard to overlook the convenience of staying at the Wavery but the benefits of the Hampton are, $60 a night including a very nice continental breakfast (sandwiches,omlets,sausage,bacon+the usual stuff), plus a free shuttle service to and from the Cobb Galaria Centre that runs till 10:00 PM. We hung out in the Pit till after hours and the cab cost $7 back to the Hampton. Plus they do have smoking rooms for those interested.

I was just thinking if we're gonna unite and be the Lead Dogs of the show we might as well do the same at the Hotel so I thought I post this as a topic of conversation.

6. I've got a nice little ATS-34 paring knife blade tempering right now that I'll finish up and donate to help out the cause.

-Josh

JAWilliams
11-08-2009, 06:30 PM
How about a shirt:


Knife dogs road to Atlanta,

Taking no prisoners.


Or knife dog
Taking Atlanta by storm


Just have to come up with the dog to use.

Sean Cochran
11-08-2009, 07:12 PM
3. It would be sweet if we could arrange a knife display at one of our booths so folks like myself who'll have 1 or 2 knives will have a shot at getting a little exposure. Offering them for sale may be too much to keep straight moneywise with a buch of different members, but displaying knives with their contact # would be great.






This is a great idea. Boss, Murph what do you think?

Sean

BossDog
11-08-2009, 08:04 PM
This is a great idea. Boss, Murph what do you think?

Sean

We can do that. We'll just need to figure out HOW to do it...

Murph, maybe you can reach out and start negotiating a spot for us with the show people?

We'll need some big banner back drops also.
frstr8 will need to think up banner designs...

murphda2
11-08-2009, 08:13 PM
Boss, just shot a PM your way with a few new ideas.

murphda2
11-11-2009, 05:49 PM
I've tried a few times to call Blade to check on arrangements with no luck. I finally found the proper point of contact today and as luck would have it, she's out of the office till the 17th. Hopefully I will have information about the booths to pass on next week.

Sean Cochran
11-12-2009, 03:35 PM
Murph
I may be able to get the folder ready by next week, Ill keep you updated.
BTW I know this is a day late (Vet's day) Thank you for your service.

Sean

BossDog
11-12-2009, 05:07 PM
I've tried a few times to call Blade to check on arrangements with no luck. I finally found the proper point of contact today and as luck would have it, she's out of the office till the 17th. Hopefully I will have information about the booths to pass on next week.

I knew you would be the right man for the job...:running dog:

murphda2
11-17-2009, 11:17 PM
Well guys and gals, I kinda dropped the ball today. For some reason, Uncle Sam thought I would be best employed working a range today as opposed to answering my phone when Blade returned my call to answer questions. I will do my best to contact them in the morning and update everyone with what I find out as soon as possible. Be advised, updates will be late tomorrow or early Thursday, I have a range tomorrow and night fire following.

BossDog
11-17-2009, 11:39 PM
what are you shooting murph? is it big?

murphda2
11-18-2009, 10:04 AM
Alrighty guys and gals, here's the scoop.......

I've spoken with the Blade Show Coordinator, Alicia Newton.

Confirmed prices for Table: $ 475
Booth: $1125
(***$75 discount per booth with payment for multiple booths***)

As of now, Alicia can not guarantee that she can reserve adjoining booths for the Knife Dogs Kennel, but has stated that more booths are being planned for 2010. She has told me that she is very willing to assist, but that last year's table and booth holders have first choice in maintaining thier former locations. The deadline for last years attendees to confirm is in January.

Alicia has asked that we complete the contract she is sending me and asked that we request the max number of booths that we believe we will require (we may reduce this number if need be). She has asked that we do this in order for her to attempt to organize things for them to be adjoining. She has further stated that there is normally a deposit required to reserve, but that given that we have a unique request she does not want us paying until she can confirm booth assignment.

With this being said....I believe it would be best that all of the Knife Dogs combine resources in order to take best advantage of the booth discount. In doing so, we need to.....

1. Establish who will be responsible for the contract. (Boss, this has your name all over it!)

2. Determine the exact number of booths we will need. Any members who wish to share a booth within the kennel, please PM me with a confirmation along with names for the booth.

3. Create a treasury for Blade along with appointing a treasurer (this ain't me, I'm working logistics). I think this could easily be done by establishing a PayPal account for Knife Dogs Blade Show (Once again, this has Boss's name all over it).

4. Determine what all we wish to provide and/or promote at the show. I personally believe that our greatest advertiseing point is not just knives, but that we are a family oriented forum deticated to the education and camaraderie of knifemakers, suppliers, collectors, dealers, hobbyist, and thier loved ones.


These are just a few ideas off the top of my head, but we need to make a few decisions pretty soon as to what our game plan will be. I hope the information I have been able to obtain has given everyone a better idea of what is going on.

Any and all serious input is greatly welcomed.

murphda2
11-18-2009, 10:11 AM
Boss, the range I'm working are small arms ranges. I'm an instructor for "Urban Operations" (urban combat tactics) as well as the Reflex Fire, and Shoot House ranges. The only weapons we deal with are the M-4, M-9, M-249, and shotgun.

Sean Cochran
11-18-2009, 07:56 PM
4. Determine what all we wish to provide and/or promote at the show. I personally believe that our greatest advertiseing point is not just knives, but that we are a family oriented forum deticated to the education and camaraderie of knifemakers, suppliers, collectors, dealers, hobbyist, and thier loved ones.


These are just a few ideas off the top of my head, but we need to make a few decisions pretty soon as to what our game plan will be. I hope the information I have been able to obtain has given everyone a better idea of what is going on.

Any and all serious input is greatly welcomed.

Murph
I just sent you a PM.

I couldnt agree more about the above, this will be my first trip to Blade, so to be able to have some friends to meet there is great.

As for suggestions, I agree with Josh that it would nice for some of us makers to be able to show some of our work. In return we would volunteer to "man" a section of the booth, maybe an "up and coming maker" area, this would be a great oppurtunity for meet and greet just to help get our name and info out there. For instance I agree to work that area for a couple of hours, while Im there I would display a couple of my knives, then another maker would have a chance and so forth.

Thanks for putting your time in this Murph. Keep 'em shooting straight!2guns

Sean

jmforge
11-22-2009, 01:52 AM
I've got a couple ideas/suggestions and info for the show

1. This is gonna be AWESOME ! Oh back on topic

2. After the fiasco with the event planners last year it may be a good idea to try to contact them and get a response on the chances of putting together our Kennel (No idea if the booth assignments work the same way that maker tables get assigned)

3. It would be sweet if we could arrange a knife display at one of our booths so folks like myself who'll have 1 or 2 knives will have a shot at getting a little exposure. Offering them for sale may be too much to keep straight moneywise with a buch of different members, but displaying knives with their contact # would be great.

4. We've got amazing talent here so perhaps an OFFICIAL KD collaboration knife to raffle off during the show is in order ? Proceeds could go towards Blade Show 2011 booths, or paying off the BB's :)

5. Last year Me, DCknives, & Mrs.DC stayed here-

Hampton Inn & Suites Atlanta-Galleria
2733 Circle 75 Parkway, Atlanta, Georgia, USA 30339
Tel: +1-770-955-1110 Fax: +1-770-955-1154

It is hard to overlook the convenience of staying at the Wavery but the benefits of the Hampton are, $60 a night including a very nice continental breakfast (sandwiches,omlets,sausage,bacon+the usual stuff), plus a free shuttle service to and from the Cobb Galaria Centre that runs till 10:00 PM. We hung out in the Pit till after hours and the cab cost $7 back to the Hampton. Plus they do have smoking rooms for those interested.

I was just thinking if we're gonna unite and be the Lead Dogs of the show we might as well do the same at the Hotel so I thought I post this as a topic of conversation.

6. I've got a nice little ATS-34 paring knife blade tempering right now that I'll finish up and donate to help out the cause.

-Josh
The chain wide Marriott no smoking policy keeps me out of the Waverly. When I went in 2005, you could spark up a cigar in The Pit. I missed 2006 and when I went back in 2007 and 2008, they had banished us to the driveway. I was too tired to go to the pit this past year, but from the pictures, it looked like they had moved the smoking area out into the parking lot. I got "fined" $250 at the Marriott Marquis in New York for smoking in my room New Years 2006-2007 after paying $600+ a night and swore that I would never stay in another Marriott.
I stayed at the Sheraton in 2007, but they have figured out they have a captive audience and have jacked up the prices accordingly. I am now a loyal Hilton guy and stayed at the Hampton in 2008 and at the Doubletree Gust Suites one light up the hill from Hampton. Hilton had just taken the Doubletree over, so they were making deals. I will probably be back at the Hampton that is right under the interstate from the Galleria again this year.

BossDog
11-22-2009, 08:39 AM
Last year I had enough frequent points I got 2 free nights at the waverly. This year I am going to have to stay 4 nights so I'm not sure where/what I'm doing. I may have to bring some helpers, a buddy to help run the booth so I can go visit suppliers and my 15yr old son who needs to start getting involved in the family business.

jmforge
11-22-2009, 02:05 PM
Last year I had enough frequent points I got 2 free nights at the waverly. This year I am going to have to stay 4 nights so I'm not sure where/what I'm doing. I may have to bring some helpers, a buddy to help run the booth so I can go visit suppliers and my 15yr old son who needs to start getting involved in the family business.
Tracy, if you are going to have multiple bodies to accommodate and a vehicle to get your wares to the Galleria, I would look seriously at the Sheraton and the Doubletree Suites. You get a lot more room in you room, so to speak. :D Another option is the one of the extended stay places around the corner.

JAWilliams
11-25-2009, 11:00 PM
Anymore news yet?

BossDog
11-30-2009, 07:15 PM
I am planning on sending a big check to the Blade Show people for booths on January 15.

At this point we are calling KnifeDogs for sure. We are also calling Great Lakes Waterjet and Midwest Knifemakers Supply sharing a booth for sure.
We have 1 group of 3 makers sharing a booth that are 90% committed.
I have 1 other group of 2 service/sellers sharing a booth 75% committed. One is a go, the other is maybe. We will find the 100% another partner if we need to.

We have tentatively 4 booths in a block we will be purchasing.
Is anyone else interested in hanging out with the dogs?

Steven Janik
11-30-2009, 07:29 PM
Tracy,
Any chance of having a table with knives from various makers, kinda like a tag sale where 10% of the sale prices goes toward the table and a few guys can takes turns manning the table. Each knife could have a tag made out by the maker with the price and maybe the lowest offer they would accept in code on the back. Just a thought.
How many knives would you think a guy should have for sale in order to take a third of a booth and what's the chances of a new guy actually selling anything?
Steve

Rudy Joly
11-30-2009, 08:28 PM
"what's the chances of a new guy actually selling anything?"


Pretty good if they look like the one in the for sale section. 2thumbs

Rudy

Les George
11-30-2009, 08:55 PM
Each knife could have a tag made out by the maker with the price and maybe the lowest offer they would accept in code on the back. Just a thought.

There should only be one price for a knife, the price. ;)

Sean Cochran
11-30-2009, 09:00 PM
There should only be one price for a knife, the price. ;)

I couldnt agree more Les. When I first started selling them I was afraid of pricing them too high, now that Im getting them to the point where I am satisfied with them, I realize that Im putting alot of work into them and price them that way, still not what a better known maker gets but what I feel is a fair price, and I dont move off that price. I dont mean to be arrogant, but if $X.XX is what I feel the knife is worth then that is what Im going to ask.
Just my .02

Sean

BossDog
11-30-2009, 11:46 PM
I'm not sure of how the logistics will work but I am sure we can work out a way for KD members to show/sell a knife or two.

There would have to be a lot of conditions decided and agreed to up front. Things like max number knives, staying with the knives, physically how are they going to be displayed (booths are just empty spaces - tables and chair rental is additional), only paid members?, etc.

The main ideas behind the KD booth was to build KnifeDogs membership and as a place to meet, relax, network, show knives, etc. That will drive all decisions around what is eventually decided.

I am sure we will have a way for members here to show a knife or two and try to sell them. We will have to get an idea of how many would like to do that before we can really put some governance in place. The last thing we need is a bunch of annoyed people because we didn't anticipate issues and plan for them in advance and communicate well.

We will talk about all this in advance so everyone knows what is going on and can contribute to the decisions around this. We have plenty of time. I think it would be great to have 200 knives for sale in the KD booth by 150 makers. I don't know where we will all stand but it will be a big, fun crowd won't it?

The Blade Show Dog Pound...

murphda2
12-01-2009, 12:10 AM
Boss, I have a few ideas. I'll shoot you a PM tomorrow. I also have another maker interested in sharing a booth.