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Les George
10-31-2009, 12:58 PM
More details later, for now, the pics! :)

http://knifedogs.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2483&d=1257015479

Les George
10-31-2009, 12:59 PM
all in a days work....

BossDog
10-31-2009, 01:01 PM
super collider cable..cool

kai76
10-31-2009, 02:08 PM
Nice and beefy!

rvin1911
10-31-2009, 03:00 PM
you been holding out on me :eek:
Great Work2thumbs
Keep Busy..........
Youre doing good:D

Les George
10-31-2009, 03:21 PM
I'm not holding out on you man, I just know it's too small for you! ;)

Frstr8
10-31-2009, 04:02 PM
Can't wait to see this done. Love the size and design! Awesome.

Darklight
11-01-2009, 05:31 PM
Beefy but cute !

Ltwtcmdr
11-01-2009, 05:43 PM
can't wait to see the finished product

Ltwtcmdr
11-01-2009, 05:44 PM
working on the weekend, no less, you da MAN !

Midnight
11-02-2009, 06:29 AM
Love that little guy too!

The Rockeye rocks!

Paul Mathews
11-02-2009, 10:55 AM
Okay Les; not the image that your thread title called to mind. I pictured two fat girls colliding at the dessert bar at Ryans and friction forging some stellite.:eek:

Must have something to do with your spelling!:D

Seriously, that is pretty neat. A very solid knife in a smaller package.:cool:

commodorewheeler
11-15-2009, 09:21 AM
I love that little guy! Nice work, Les!

Jeff Pearce
11-15-2009, 10:27 AM
Looks great...I must get a les george knife soon....

JCMILLER
11-17-2009, 01:26 PM
Oh man that's sweet. Superconductor is my favorite bolster material. 2thumbs

Les George
11-17-2009, 01:36 PM
Thanks, this is my first time using it! :) I am hoping to have 2 knives with it at the Vegas show in Jan. I need to try and find that guy's info and try to get some more of the stuff! :)

commodorewheeler
11-18-2009, 02:09 PM
Thanks, this is my first time using it! :) I am hoping to have 2 knives with it at the Vegas show in Jan. I need to try and find that guy's info and try to get some more of the stuff! :)

Les, here you go:

Gary Runyon
(256) 722-2231

Great guy to work with, I put in an order with him not too long ago.

Les George
11-18-2009, 02:31 PM
Sweet, thanks Ken!

Les George
12-10-2009, 02:36 PM
I like the way this little guy is turning out! 2thumbs

http://knifedogs.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3959&d=1260480969

Frstr8
12-10-2009, 03:30 PM
Awesome! That is coming along nicely. 2thumbs

JAWilliams
12-10-2009, 04:25 PM
Nice.

Les George
01-03-2010, 10:14 AM
Cell phone pic, but this one is getting close. I really like this little guy and I am gonna do some more in steel soon. Its got a sub 3" blade.

All short and fat like it is, makes me thing about it with a spyder hole.... 2thumbs

Allen Newberry
01-03-2010, 10:17 AM
Looking good!

Ltwtcmdr
01-03-2010, 11:33 AM
Can't wait to see it in person in Vegas.
Seriously nice work.

mwalx30123
01-03-2010, 11:38 AM
I have a piece of semiconductor to donate for a project 2thumbs

Les George
01-03-2010, 11:40 AM
I need to get some more of it myself... Dont you loose that pice Mark, we'll put it to good use. There will come a day when there is no more of that stuff to be had. :(

Denny Eller
01-03-2010, 11:44 AM
Great looking knife, Les. Could you explain what the stuff is for us un-educated dolts?

Stew
01-03-2010, 12:00 PM
Superconductor is an awesome material to see on a knife!

Les George
01-03-2010, 12:20 PM
Great looking knife, Les. Could you explain what the stuff is for us un-educated dolts?

Hopefully someone that knows more about it will chime in... It's a combination of niobium and copper.

I understand it to be some scrap from some fancy super collider atom smasher thingy. It starts out in alike 2-3 inch round and they have to waterjet and then forge it down, so that is why it's so expensive. It's in the same price range as mosaic damascus.

:unsure:huh1

SPAknives
01-03-2010, 02:29 PM
Those are sweet looking knives Man!! Now educate me on what Stellite is?? I seen that stuff that Chad Nichols had laminated looked pretty sweet!

Les George
01-03-2010, 05:39 PM
Stellite 6K is what this knife is. There are different kinds of stellite but the favored one is 6K, for the most part...

Stellite alloy is a completely non-magnetic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetism) and corrosion-resistant (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corrosion) cobalt alloy. There are a number of Stellite alloys, with various compositions optimised for different uses. Information is available from the manufacturer, Deloro Stellite, outlining the composition of a number of Stellite alloys and their intended applications. The alloy currently most suited for cutting tools, for example, is Stellite 100, because this alloy is quite hard, maintains a good cutting edge even at high temperature, and resists hardening (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardening_%28metallurgy%29) and annealing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annealing_%28metallurgy%29) due to heat. Other alloys are formulated to maximize combinations of wear resistance (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wear_resistance), corrosion resistance, or ability to withstand extreme temperatures.
Stellite alloys display astounding hardness (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardness_%28materials_science%29) and toughness (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toughness), and are also usually very resistant to corrosion. Stellite alloys are so hard that they are very difficult to machine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machining), and anything made from them is, as a result, very expensive. Typically a Stellite part will be very precisely cast (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casting_%28metalworking%29) so that only minimal machining will be necessary. Machining of Stellite is more often done by grinding (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grinding_machine), rather than by cutting. Stellite alloys also tend to have extremely high melting points (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melting_point) due to the cobalt and chromium content.

Denny Eller
01-03-2010, 06:54 PM
Thank you for the explanation, Les. They sure do combine to make one stunning folder.

SPAknives
01-03-2010, 08:18 PM
Thanks a ton Les! I had no idea what the heck it was, but that helped a ton.

RAGUEL3
01-04-2010, 01:20 AM
The multi patterned type of superconducting materials is usually a composite of Niobium-53%/Ti-47% alloy rods all bundled together in a matrix of pure copper. There a TONS of patterns too , depending on how its been cut up for resale.

The pattern is changed by the orientation of the cut surface.
It is a reactive metal, so it can also be heat colored or even anodized to get a wild crayola possibilities span of colors.

If you decide,hmmm, sounds like fun,. .remember my own mantra to everyone
" ALWAYS MASK UP", but ESPECIALLY with this stuff.
Even if you are goofy enough to not fear carbon fiber n G10- Copper is a poison,and Ti/Niobium dust is TOXIC, period.
You need a serious ventilator and fresh air source for workin/cutting/etching/sanding/buffing/polishing/-hell dang near LOOKING at this stuff,lol.

If youre seriously attracted to superconductor materials, look up Gary Runyon of Fayettevill,TN.
And like Mammoth Ivory,and some others- its a Finite material-theres going to eventually be an end to it as Les stated.

Now you know why its both gorgeous and expensive.

SPAknives
01-04-2010, 07:05 PM
So where does a dude like myself get such cool looking stuff??

Les George
01-04-2010, 08:45 PM
I got mine at Blade show...

RAGUEL3
01-04-2010, 11:34 PM
So where does a dude like myself get such cool looking stuff??

Try Gary Runyon , Deertrace@vallnet.com ( last addy i had for him)
if that doesnt work, PM me for his numbers.:)

Scott Jones
01-05-2010, 10:32 AM
I think that is a great size for a knife.

Very Cool Les:)

John Barker
01-05-2010, 10:44 AM
Les,
That turned out great. Very cool.
-John

Paul Mathews
01-05-2010, 05:43 PM
I'm with Scott. I think that's a nice sized blade in a pocket friendly package.2thumbs

rvin1911
01-05-2010, 06:20 PM
All short and fat like it is, makes me thing about it with a spyder hole.... 2thumbs

Now your talking,
I might have to get one now

Les George
01-25-2010, 02:03 PM
This little guy has had a lot of great responses, so I am gonna make some more.

Also flexing the CAD skills a little too... :)

What do ya think? :)

Curtiss Knives
01-25-2010, 02:04 PM
Mad CAD! 2guns

Darklight
01-25-2010, 02:22 PM
Great news, I like this this little beast !!!

Tod Lowe
01-26-2010, 11:08 PM
Awesome knives man.

I just learned a couple days ago we use Stellite in our furnace here at work and its often just thrown in the scrap hopper when replaced. I dont know what kind it is though. My research of this stuff it claims to be just as tough as or tougher then most steels at a lower rockwell. Also almost rust proof if I remember correctly.
Hopefully I can get my hands on some.:cool:

Les George
01-27-2010, 05:13 AM
sweet if you get some for free, you can dance the happy dance, since it costs about $300 per pound last I heard.... :)

Tod Lowe
01-27-2010, 10:06 AM
I came across some stellite last night.
It's used as some kind of bearing race and comes in pieces that are quarter round and 3/8 ths thick by about 3 inches long.
It's unusable in this form. Do you think it can be heated and flattened out?
I'm going to try that's for sure.

Les George
01-27-2010, 11:49 AM
I want to say that I heard it forges fairly well, but I wouldnt count on me remembering that right.

If it doesn't cost nothing, you have no reason not to try it! :)

Use Blaze belts when you go to grind it ;)

Oromoto
05-24-2010, 12:42 PM
Awesome sidekick!