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Raymond Richard
10-21-2009, 06:48 PM
I've had an interest in making a rifle stock war club for a couple weeks. Last night when I was working on the hawk I was thinking about it even more when an idea came to mind. I wanted to us part of the shape that the new hawk has and see if I could work it in. 99% of the time I don't draw much before I working on a new project. To my amazement I found a 30" X 7" X 1" piece of curly maple I forgot I had. I drew out the shape I was after last night and cut it out this morning and got the profile cleaned up. I then forged the blade for it. Took a bunch of photo's of the changes that took place in the steel along the way. If you have any questions I'll try and answer them. I started with ruffly 1 1/2" X 4 X 5/16 piece of truck leaf spring.

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Eli Gautreaux
10-21-2009, 07:10 PM
Oh YEAH!

I like the looks of this one Ray :D :D

Peter Killgore
10-21-2009, 07:19 PM
That's quite the war club Ray. Wouldn't want to be on the wrong end of that. Are you going to use the other piece of steel to do a second blade on it? I think that might look cool with another blade either going the opposite direction or just further up the club. I'm liking the tomahawk. Is the spearhead spike sharp on the edges?

Raymond Richard
10-21-2009, 07:27 PM
That's quite the war club Ray. Wouldn't want to be on the wrong end of that. Are you going to use the other piece of steel to do a second blade on it? I think that might look cool with another blade either going the opposite direction or just further up the club. I'm liking the tomahawk. Is the spearhead spike sharp on the edges?

Peter, I just had the other piece of steel in the photo as a reference as to what it started out looking like. One blade is enough, with two blades it would be just to unsafe. I will put somewhat of an edge on the blade but it don't need much. I'm hoping someone will see this new club. Buy it and make a movie based on the club. :bud:

BowtownBlade
10-22-2009, 03:34 AM
Ray, it amazes me what you do with a hammer. The only thing I am good at with a hammer is to destroy things.

ddavelarsen
10-22-2009, 05:27 AM
This is right up your alley Ray! I'm amazed you haven't done it before, and I'm looking forward to more pics as you go along. Good stuff!

stabber
10-22-2009, 06:44 AM
WoW!! Awesome Ray.2thumbs That sure is a massive hammer your forging with!!:eek:

Raymond Richard
10-22-2009, 10:07 AM
WoW!! Awesome Ray.2thumbs That sure is a massive hammer your forging with!!:eek:

Ricky, I didn't realize it until you mentioned the hammer. Did you notice the hammers got smaller as the work got closer to final shape? That's the way its supposed to be. That must mean I know what I'm doing? :D

Raymond Richard
10-22-2009, 10:47 AM
On one of the other forums I posted this thread. Anyway another fellow asked me this question:

What tribe are you going from, if you dont mind?[/QUOTE]

The tribe that lives out in my shop. I'll have to ask them. :101 This is just total fantasy like the rest of my work. I make what I like and if it looks like something historic its by accident. I consider my pieces "could have been's". Not what were.

Raymond Richard
10-22-2009, 06:42 PM
Last night when I was working on the club I started to think about a little larger blade for this model. Then I remember the left over piece of curly maple from when I cut this one out. Anyway long story short the blades are interchangeable so you'll always have a spare. Lots of work left to do.

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Denny Eller
10-22-2009, 06:53 PM
Sir, you are a genius - a well armed genius.

mofretwell
10-22-2009, 07:40 PM
Ray,

Awesome design. Can't wait to see the finished war club. I also love the hawk you showed beneath the new one.

When I get home, I will send you a drawing of an ancient Chinese war club head, done in bronze (from the bronze age, of course). When I saw it, I thought of you! I think the bladesmith (or is it bronzesmith?) way back then may have been one of your ancestors. At least he and you think alike.

Chuck Cook
10-22-2009, 09:52 PM
Very nice.

I like the smaller one best, but both are great.

pocomoonskyeyes
10-22-2009, 11:36 PM
Hey Kinda' a father and son warrior set!! The Smaller one looks rather sneaky wicked!!

Raymond Richard
10-22-2009, 11:58 PM
Ray,

Awesome design. Can't wait to see the finished war club. I also love the hawk you showed beneath the new one.

When I get home, I will send you a drawing of an ancient Chinese war club head, done in bronze (from the bronze age, of course). When I saw it, I thought of you! I think the bladesmith (or is it bronzesmith?) way back then may have been one of your ancestors. At least he and you think alike.

Did you make it to Siagon? I'm looking forward to seeing your drawing.

Raymond Richard
10-24-2009, 11:36 PM
Spent most the day doing some yardwork. Mostly burning and everything is still standing and no hot leg. I did get both of the blades set and got both handle shaped. There just sanded down to 60 grit right now so theres lots of work left.

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Peter Killgore
10-24-2009, 11:49 PM
Those are both turning out really nice Ray. I'm excited to see how they look when they're finished. How are you going to fix the blades in the handles?

ddavelarsen
10-25-2009, 04:33 AM
Ray can you show the handles where the blades go into them? Looks like you've cut a pocket out for the blade to set in. Those handles are really shaping up nicely. Great project!

Nice to hear you didn't burn your burn. :D

BowtownBlade
10-25-2009, 06:50 AM
They are looking really good Ray, your skills show no matter what you tackle.

Raymond Richard
10-25-2009, 09:50 AM
Those are both turning out really nice Ray. I'm excited to see how they look when they're finished. How are you going to fix the blades in the handles?

Peter, I made both of the blades interchangeable. I have a tang slot in the handle exactly like what I do with a knife. The end of the tang is drilled and I riveted on a piece of 1/4" round that I threaded. I used one of my pear shaped nuts to hold the blade in place. Both are nothing more than take down knives made with a real simple mind. To be me you got to think simple or not at all. :D

Dave, If I told you I didn't even get burnt from a hot ember yesterday would you believe me? Something I did do which is very strange for me is I put on gloves before I even started working. All this time I thought gloves were used when I take pictures of my knives. 2thumbs

Raymond Richard
10-25-2009, 12:26 PM
For those who need to know. :D

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ddavelarsen
10-25-2009, 05:13 PM
Thanks Ray, that looks good.

And you'd be surprised how useful gloves are for all kinds of things. I guess. :D

Raymond Richard
10-25-2009, 09:11 PM
Thanks Ray, that looks good.

And you'd be surprised how useful gloves are for all kinds of things. I guess. :D

Dave, I've never liked to wearing gloves. Even with all the forging I do gloves are not worn however I'm going back to the Damascus Road again tomorrow morning. I've got two pairs in my truck right now. Now I just need to find a fire prof suit.

Got some time in on both the sticks. Sanded them down to 320 and then went over them with 00000 steel wool. I got some color on them now. I'll give them a dye job and it will tell me where I need to spend more time sanding. The dye helps the scratches become move visible plus I was also wanted to see what they would look like.

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Peter Killgore
10-25-2009, 09:31 PM
I like the looks of those, especially the small one. Be careful with that Damascus tomorrow(cause pain hurts).:D

ddavelarsen
10-26-2009, 04:15 AM
Yeah, those are looking great! Can't wait to see what all that grain looks like.

You going to layer up the two pairs of gloves? :D Did you find an apron or something? I'd hate to hear about another fire in your britches. And I'm looking forward to seeing the damascus you're making. If history is any example, it's going to be special.

Raymond Richard
10-26-2009, 09:35 AM
Yeah, those are looking great! Can't wait to see what all that grain looks like.

You going to layer up the two pairs of gloves? :D Did you find an apron or something? I'd hate to hear about another fire in your britches. And I'm looking forward to seeing the damascus you're making. If history is any example, it's going to be special.

Dave, The two pairs of gloves are not meant to wear double upped. I want to try the lighter pair first. There made from an old goat so they got to be tough. :D The gloves I wore last week looked like heavy welding gloves but sure didn't seem to stop the heat that much. I plan to go to a welding supply today and purchase some leather.

I was thinking the burn on my leg would be fine without having a bandage on it but it was telling me when I got out of bed to put one back on.

Eli Gautreaux
10-26-2009, 01:42 PM
Ray, the clubs are looking good!

Be safe with the damascus :)

ddavelarsen
10-26-2009, 02:15 PM
Ray, burns are nothing to mess with. They can become infected very easily. I don't mean to sound like your mom, I know you're a grownup. :D

While you're at the welding supply, you might look into some kind of long apron to protect your ... stuff. You don't need any critical burns! They'd start calling you "Stubby." :eek:

BowtownBlade
10-26-2009, 04:00 PM
Ray
the clubs look better with each photo, their not gonna be a secret much longer... lol

Raymond Richard
10-28-2009, 12:37 AM
Got another full day of work in on both these pieces. I finally figured out how I was going to do the grip. The larger one won't be changing much but I noticed more scratches I needed to remove on the smaller one so most likely there will be a color change. Both were dyed a second time and I've got a coat of linseed oil on them. It will probably dry in another month.

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JAWilliams
10-28-2009, 08:27 AM
Looking like new money sir.

BowtownBlade
10-28-2009, 04:58 PM
Ray, They look great, beautiful work again

Semper708
10-28-2009, 05:17 PM
Love the finish project....they look great! 2thumbs

Peter Killgore
10-28-2009, 08:34 PM
One word,bouncewow1 Two thumbs2thumbsup.

Eli Gautreaux
10-30-2009, 08:06 AM
VERY cool pieces Ray!

I've got a few turkey beards that might look good dangling from the ring behind the blade...

Dusty One
11-12-2009, 06:27 AM
Hay Ray....You do it all...Nice work !

P.S. You have a nice place here....

Eli Gautreaux
07-04-2011, 09:18 AM
I know it's weird to bump an old thread, but I spent a while trying to find this one, and thought some others might want to see it again...

These are just such cool pieces Ray!