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Raymond Richard
09-24-2009, 01:00 PM
One of the things I wanted to get while at Blade West was some new steel. I had called Chuck Bybee about a week before the show to ask him if he was bringing some 52100 to the show. He said he was getting some new steel as we talked and some of it was the 52100. Fast forward to the show, I run into Chuck and he hands me this piece of CruforgeV and gives me a free sample. I think Chuck would have made a good fisherman cause he sure got me to bite. The piece Chuck had given me was 2" wide and just under 6" long and about 3 hairs thicker than 1/4". A couple days ago I had the forge running so I could forge out some wagon wheel and I decided to find out how this new steel forged. I starting out wanting to upset this piece of steel to around 1 1/4" but after the first couple heats I decided upsetting this piece of steel would be more work than what it was worth so I ended up splitting the bar and made two bars that were close to 1" wide X 6". Yesterday I got the tang forged and quit because it was just to hot in the shop.

I'd got an email from Peter asking to come over. He was wanting talk about temperlines and how I forged in a clip. Anyway the shop was the right temperature this morning and went ahead and finished most the forging on this blade and took some pictures along the way.

When I'm doing a long clip like I pretty much normally do I like to start with my biggest hammer. It was a 6 pound sledge when I first got it but I have since ground a fat straight peen on one end. I'll start forging in the clip 1 1/2" from the back of the blade using this fat straight peen.
http://www.hawknknives.com/forums/IMG_1510.JPG

This picture shows the preform I just made with the hammer. While I'm working on a preform like this I'm also stretching the blade and forging in the distal taper at the sametime.
http://www.hawknknives.com/forums/IMG_1512.JPG

This picture shows how distorted the blade gets after making a couple pases using a cross peen to forge in the bevels.
http://www.hawknknives.com/forums/IMG_1514.JPG

I'm working on the bevel in this photo.
http://www.hawknknives.com/forums/IMG_1517.JPG

This picture shows what the forged blade looks like now. The piece of steel in the photo is the other half of the piece of steel Chuck had given me.
http://www.hawknknives.com/forums/IMG_1518.JPG

This steel is really stiff under the hammer. It needs to be forged a lot hotter than what I normally forge and it says not to forge under 1500 degrees. Under 1500 degrees it will not move so don't waste your time after the bright glow is gone. It forges really clean. Just remember to forge it real hot.

Eli Gautreaux
09-24-2009, 05:17 PM
Amazing pics and process Ray.

I'm glad you like that steel... Is it terribly pricey?

stabber
09-24-2009, 05:21 PM
Nice!! That is a monster anvil!!

Raymond Richard
09-24-2009, 06:20 PM
Nice!! That is a monster anvil!!

Ricky, As far as anvils go the one your seeing in the photo is a small to medium size. Its a 150 pound Trenton. Big enough that I can move it around the shop without having to call for reserves. Its plenty big enough for me to make knives and axes on.

Eli,
The steel is a little more expensive but not outrageously. I sure like how it moves. I feel like I have a little more control with it. I went and forged a false edge on it so this is what it looks like now. I'm also ready to heat treat the spear head. I'm going to leave it forge finished.

http://www.hawknknives.com/forums/IMG_1519.JPG

http://www.hawknknives.com/forums/IMG_1520.JPG

Eli Gautreaux
09-24-2009, 06:44 PM
Looks great Ray!

Forge finished, what will that look like when sharpened?

Raymond Richard
09-24-2009, 07:46 PM
Looks great Ray!

Forge finished, what will that look like when sharpened?

Rustic, with an edge. :confused:

Billy Stewart
09-24-2009, 08:53 PM
Hammering hot steel in short pants you are my hero!! rockonshakin

Raymond Richard
09-24-2009, 10:23 PM
Hammering hot steel in short pants you are my hero!! rockonshakin

You wear short pants around here you gotta forge to stay warm. 2thumbs

Raymond Richard
09-27-2009, 11:43 AM
I forged out the Nessmuk style blade using the other piece of the new steel yesterday. This steel forges nicer than any steel I have ever used. I did grind the new blade last night and the way it grinds reminds me of back when I did a lot of stock removal. It reminds me of grinding D-2. Not a steel to be working on without a grinder. Maybe if I'd annealed it after forging that would have helped. I just normalized.

http://www.hawknknives.com/forums/IMG_1536.JPG

Eli Gautreaux
09-27-2009, 02:02 PM
Ray, I'm really glad you are liking this steel. Do we need to order some more before November??? :))

Raymond Richard
09-27-2009, 04:13 PM
Ray, I'm really glad you are liking this steel. Do we need to order some more before November??? :))

Would a ton be enough? huh1 I do plan on getting somemore. I think before I do that I need to find out how well it works. How much steel does one old man need?

Eli Gautreaux
09-27-2009, 04:15 PM
Would a ton be enough? huh1 I do plan on getting somemore. I think before I do that I need to find out how well it works. How much steel does one old man need?


LOL, well the truth is that you could stay busy for a very long time just finishing out all the blades hanging in your shop!

Raymond Richard
09-27-2009, 07:48 PM
LOL, well the truth is that you could stay busy for a very long time just finishing out all the blades hanging in your shop!

Eli, I bet if I counted every pile of blades plus the ones hanging up there would be close to 100. Who needs steel?