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Peter Killgore
11-28-2010, 10:44 PM
OK......so little isn't quite the right word. Big would be better. :D The other night, I noticed a piece of rebar on the bench that Ray had given me a while ago that I'd never used. It was probably 18-20" long I'm guessing(I didn't measure it)and I didn't feel like cutting it so....it became this

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs992.snc4/76561_127462597315273_100001546000713_176881_28562 09_n.jpg

It currently just under 30" and far from done as you can see. Sometime in the future(maybe)it will be a sword. I'm planning on doing a double bevel and a C guard on it but we'll see how(if)it turns out. :D Any and all comments welcome. Input and advice especially.

ddavelarsen
11-29-2010, 04:31 AM
Awesome Peter! I've no advice to offer you; personally I'll be looking forward to the progress reports. Why wait? I say get started on that bad boy now! :D

Raymond Richard
11-29-2010, 05:01 PM
Peter, I call that a long range project. Glad to see that little anvil getting used. I think it found a good home. Keep us posted on your progress.......

Peter Killgore
11-30-2010, 12:28 AM
Long range does sound good... The anvil is definitely getting used. :) I can see how something a bit bigger would be nice for a piece like this. It for sure does the job though. I'll post my progress but don't hold your breath. It's a long time from now to June. :D

Peter Killgore
12-12-2010, 08:51 PM
Had a chance to get a little work done on this between last night and today. I had to reline my forge so that took up most of my shop time yesterday. Anyways, here's the changes. Nothing huge. I stretched it a bit and started forging in the bevels(this may prove to be a mistake....I guess I'll see if this turns into an expensive mistake, a valuable learning experience, or something that resembles a sword like object. :D )

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs599.ash2/155114_130721626989370_100001546000713_192305_6229 975_n.jpg

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs1221.snc4/155332_130721660322700_100001546000713_192306_6331 325_n.jpg

More later. :D Feel free to chime in with any tips or suggestions!

And I know the shop's a mess....half of it is my dad's. We just have to decide which half... :)

Shane Justice
12-13-2010, 07:16 PM
Yeah Buddy...you are learning.

It is probably not a smart thing for me to chime in.

When I work on larger pieces, and even sometimes on smaller ones, I forge the point first and work back toward the ricasso/tang area.

However, I was taught to forge a dropped edge by "pinching" off the dropped edge and then working forward when I was at the Blade School (ABS)

Honestly experience is a better teacher than an idiot like me, so forge on.

Shane

Peter Killgore
12-24-2010, 11:34 PM
My thinking behind starting at the ricasso was that it would push any extra steel towards the tip and give a me a little more in length. Seems to have worked as I gained a little over an inch in the forging I did today.

I almost have the forging done on it now. The bevels need to be cleaned up a little bit and the whole thing needs to be straightened(I need a bigger anvil if anyone wants to send me a Christmas present). After that I'll take it to the grinder to finish the profile and(try and potentially miserably fail to)true up the bevels. So far it's been a great learning experience though! I've learned about as much about forging with this piece as I have will all the other knives I've done so far. I'll get pictures up later.

Hope you all have a Very Merry Christmas! :D

Peter

Eli Gautreaux
12-25-2010, 10:47 AM
Looking forward to the pics bro!

Peter Killgore
12-25-2010, 12:59 PM
Still have to clean up the bevels a bit with the hammer and straighten the whole thing. Here's where it's at now though.

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs754.ash1/164576_133832346678298_100001546000713_206290_1935 002_n.jpg

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs760.ash1/165126_133832313344968_100001546000713_206289_7693 827_n.jpg

Sorry the photos aren't all that great. I promise good ones when it's all finished. :D

I finally have another question for you Ray. :) How should I go about getting the twists out of this? And, should I save that for after straightening it and truing the profile and the bevels or do it now? Thanks for all the help you've given me with knives! I wouldn't be doing this without having had it.

Peter

Peter Killgore
12-25-2010, 10:53 PM
I know I said I wasn't going to work on this today but I wound up working on it anyways... Cleaned up the profile and the bevels. I think it's almost ready for the grinder! I think it'll be there after one more session of forging. :)
Still some straightening to do.
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/hs026.snc6/165612_133927856668747_100001546000713_207243_3618 222_n.jpg

And some flattening.....
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs907.snc4/71995_133927893335410_100001546000713_207244_75231 24_n.jpg

But the profile looks OK I think!
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs1395.snc4/164744_133927926668740_100001546000713_207246_1956 314_n.jpg

BTW: I got a bubble jig under the tree today so I'm looking forward to using it on this!

Eli Gautreaux
12-26-2010, 06:53 PM
You're a brave man! Looking real good so far :)

Peter Killgore
12-27-2010, 12:08 AM
Thanks Eli! :D

Martin Brandt
02-01-2011, 11:02 AM
Peter, I'm not Ray, but you want to straighten and untwist before you grind, or anything else. You also want to straighten a bit as you forge, rather than waiting til you're done forging. Just keep at it as you forge. Straightening is done by sighting down the blade and giving light blows on the anvil with hammer on the flats, or a schwauker on the edges. Untwisting I do with a big smooth jaw monkey wrench with slightly rounded corners on the jaws, and a hardy tool that is a 1" stem for the hardy hole, with two pieces of 1/4x1"x6" welded together at the ends. One end of this is welded to the hardy stem. Take a heat on the 1/4x1x6 portion and then force a pointed 1/2" punch through between the two pieces 3" from the end. You will now have a hardy tool with an internal bevel/wedge pointing up and down. Heat your blade in an area that's twisted, slide into the tool and using the monkey wrench open just a bit wider than the blade is thick to provide the necessary twisting action to fix the twist. The sighting, straightening, untwisting is a slow but critical part of the job, but so necessary. When done normalize three times carefully heating to just nonmagnetic and let cool in still air till the shadow passes through the steel. Now you're ready to grind.

Peter Killgore
02-04-2011, 05:53 PM
Martin, thanks for the tips! I haven't been on here in a while so I just went with my but instinct and did all I could with the hammer. It's twist/bend free right now(at least as far as I can see). Wound up doing it all with the hammer. I'll try to get pictures of it up later. Funny thing hit me the other day when I was working on it though. I was imagining having a finished sword that I could show off and I realized that I have no way to heat the entire thing for heat treating it.......not to mention normalizing it.... Looks like it'll be put on hold yet again. :/