View Full Version : Knives For Servicemembers - Poll

10-18-2010, 09:35 PM
Justin King was kind enough to spark interest in doing a build for deployed servicemembers. In true community fashion, numerous Knife Dogs have offered to pitch in to help in this effort. In a later post, I will list all who have graciously offered materials or services for this effort.

Our next step in this effort is to decide on which design we wish to use for the build. Several designs have been submitted and all have worthy merit as quality users, but one must be chosen in order to move forward with the build. We are particularly interested in receiving in put from those who wish to participate in the build, but this poll is open for all Knife Dog's opinions.

Cal Harkins

Dave Curtis

Justin King - Mid Service Model

Justin King - Mid Size Mid Service Model



HHH Knives

Iron Wolf - 2 and 3 Finger

Iron Wolf - Purely Tactical

Iron Wolf - Wolf Pup

Iron Wolf - IWD
Iron Wolf - Tak-Muk
Iron Wolf - Pack Rat
Steve Janik

These last four will be on my next post. There wasn't enough room for all thirteen designs in one post.

Bill T
10-18-2010, 10:04 PM
Hey Murph , We still have to decide WHO gets them as well .
I know there's at least one guy ( a Vietnam Vet ) I've spoken to , who would like someone in his old unit to receive a knife . Are we going to make something like that possible ?
Is there any choice to be made by us , or is it already decided who's to get them ? This seems like it could be the hardest part ...
Thanks , Bill

10-18-2010, 10:21 PM
I'm going to step in here as your question was already answered in my discussion earlier with Justin before anything was posted in this drive.

The original post and intent was to supply knives to active, deployed servicemen or women. I understand our veterans deserve our thanks also but the intent of this effort was active and deployed. Those that are currently in harms way. I asked Justin to mention that clearly in his post in case exact question would come up.

You can certainly lead an effort here if you chose, to see that some of our veterans get a knife and I will support that also as long as it is clearly spelled out in advance.

Justin King
10-18-2010, 10:41 PM
I think Bill meant that his friend would like to see a knife donated to someone who is currently serving in the unit he used to serve in-I could be wrong but that was how I read it. At any rate it is good to have that detail made clear from the beginning, thank you, Tracy.
To sort of answer the rest of Bill's question, as far as I know we do not have any plans written in stone for who the knives will go to yet. Murph is looking into some possibilities through his channels and I have my ear to the ground but have not had time to actively pursue this myself recently. If your friend can get in contact with a unit that is deployed to a forward area, I would consider that worth looking into as a possibility, but I will defer to whatever input Murph has on that. He may have something going already and if so I don't want to complicate it.

10-18-2010, 11:00 PM
There are several designs that I really liked. however considering the type of use and abuse that these knives will see I would say a design like the one that Murph posted would serve best. This design looks sterdy with a strong spine. IMHO false edeges look cool but will lead to broken tips under the use that these blades will see.

10-18-2010, 11:10 PM
Please bare with me, I'm trying to get all of these photos compiled and added to the poll.

10-18-2010, 11:18 PM
I have a buddy who is active,AND about to get knee deep in the slippery stink.
An excerpt from his post (on another forum) just yesterday:
"On a side note- might be a bit before I can chat with you fellas again. Don't know if ya follow the news but things haven't been pretty this side of the drink, and the unit we are working with lost 9 Marines this past week. So now it's time to get back out there and do some clean-up duty."

(as a side note, he's really loving my Tak-'Muk idea:3: )

10-18-2010, 11:32 PM
Iron Wolf - IWD

Iron Wolf - Tac-Muk

Iron Wolf - Pack Rat

Steve Janik

10-18-2010, 11:36 PM
Incidentally,those are the only three I submitted that I actually consider applicable to the requirements.
If one of them is chosen,please feel free to modify it to suit it's function.

Justin King
10-18-2010, 11:44 PM
Good designs all the way around, but I made up my mind. Ain't tellin' which, but it wasn't one of mine!

Bill T
10-19-2010, 04:29 AM
The friend and Vet I mentioned is a member here and also one who is in on the making. And yes ,I did mean for an Active Duty member. Sorry for any confusion. I aiso don't see Steve Janiks knife in the mix for voting. Thanks,Bill

10-19-2010, 09:32 AM
Bill, thank you for pointing out my oversight. When i scanned through the thread, i looked for photos and attached files and completely missed Steve's "Kantlooz" model. I'm trying to figure out how to edit the poll now.

Steven Janik
10-19-2010, 09:47 AM
Don't fret if you cant alter the poll. There seems to be several better choices. I would however be happy to donate a tactical looking "Kantlooz" for a serviceman.

You are doing good work here, thanks


Screwy Squirrel
10-19-2010, 10:08 AM
This is the Black Hawk that Randy at HHH knives made for me, This is an awesome knife ! I had him leave the handle for me so I could make it fit my hand just right. Just wanted people to know this is a great knife and anyone would be proud to carry one ! Vote wisely my friends.

Bill T
10-19-2010, 04:42 PM
Hey Dogs , I just got off the phone with Aldo .
And I wanted to say publicly what a GREAT guy he is .
His Enthusiasm and Generosity is 2nd to none , we're lucky to have him with us on this . After all , we wouldn't get very far without steel .
And I just wanted to say - Thank You Aldo .

10-19-2010, 05:01 PM
I'll add my "Thank You" to that!
This is an incredible effort on all fronts,
and I just wish there was something substantial I could contribute...
If I had the means right now, I'd be grinding and making something to serve Those Who Serve.
(and 'Squirrel,that Black Hawk of Randy's is a beautiful beast...)

Big Smitty
10-19-2010, 06:38 PM
I aiso don't see Steve Janiks knife in the mix for voting.

Mine was left out also, but no biggie, lots of good designs already to choose from.

Carey Quinn
10-19-2010, 06:53 PM
I have been watching this thread with quite a bit of interest and I would like to thank all the Dogs for standing up to help our service members. It does an old vet's heart good.

I didn't feel like one of my designs would be what most folks were thinking about for 'field' work so I didn't make any offers to contribute a design. I would, however, like to offer to complete a knife for the cause.

If I can be of help, let me know.


Justin King
10-20-2010, 08:04 PM
I will add you to the list, Carey, thank you for throwing in!

10-20-2010, 08:45 PM
I think this one would be the best of those presented, but would not include that aggressive jimping on the butt for the small finger


Justin King
10-21-2010, 08:27 PM
While we are polling, I would like to ask for ideas for a catchier title for our effort. Any wordsmiths out there? There is some discussion about a sub-forum for this cause and I think it deserves a name that rolls off the tongue a little better than the one I came up with.

10-21-2010, 08:33 PM
I vote "Military Mutts"

10-21-2010, 09:30 PM
Fangs for our Fightin' Finest?

Jerry Bond
10-21-2010, 11:18 PM
Hay Murph, If the blade blanks, macarta and corbies are furnished . Put me down to build 5 completed knives. No sheaths.
Now should I stamp my name on them?

10-21-2010, 11:22 PM
Jerry, we want all makers to mark the blades they grind with thier mark. We may be getting another mark to add as well. If you want to make five, I'll make the sheaths for you.

Curtiss Knives
10-22-2010, 07:22 AM
Guys, I have a bar of A-2 that is 3/16" x 7" x 36" from Aldo sitting here ready to cut. Lets go! Thanks Aldo!!!

Denny Eller
10-22-2010, 08:33 AM
"D.O.G.S" - (Delivering Our Guys Support)

10-22-2010, 02:28 PM
That's a good one Denny.

Dave, I spoke with Aldo a few nights ago. He has two more on standby if we need them.

Mrs. Murph
10-22-2010, 09:02 PM
Great designs from all of you! Was hard to choose from my final 2......for my vote. ;) Good Luck to All!

Justin King
10-22-2010, 09:21 PM
Just a notice:I am planning to close the poll tomorrow (Sat.) evening at 6pm (Mtn).

10-23-2010, 07:15 AM
Im willing to grind some blades if needed.

Bill T
10-23-2010, 05:32 PM
I don't know about you Dogs , but I'm excited !!! To me , this is the coolest thing that's happened here in a while ! I hope it does do well enough to get it's own forum and become an ongoing thing . For as long as I'm a Dog , I'm in on this .

Bill T
10-23-2010, 05:49 PM
Hey Mrs. Murph , Thanks for taking the time to vote and be an active member ! My Wife usually just reads posts over my shoulder , if I'm not reading them out loud to myself ! hmmmm , I wonder who she voted for ..... ?

10-23-2010, 06:14 PM
Honestly Bill, I think the fact that I'm the one who put the ring on her finger may have been the feather that swayed the vote. She really liked a couple of them. She has developed a really good eye for knives over the past couple of years and critiques me harder than anyone else ever would. She's one mechanic who is extremely attentive to small details.

Bill T
10-24-2010, 02:39 PM
Well , It appears we have an undeclared winner . Are we waiting for the bugle to blow , cause I hear it . And it's playing Reveille...

10-24-2010, 02:58 PM
Bill, "Reveille" was at 0600. I was at "Present Arms".

I'll get a list for the build going when I get home from the training lanes this evening.

Bill T
10-24-2010, 03:34 PM
On the list of things we have donations for , I noticed what we don't have . And that is a set of Pins/Rivets and the Lanyard tube .
I see that Boss is donating the Micarta , so I have an offer for him .
If he will include the pins/rivets and lanyard tube for each set of scales , well , I'll pay for them . I don't care if this first batch is for 20 knives or 100 , I got this .
I know it means a little more work , cutting the tube and pins , if we don't use rivets . That being said , I know rivets cost more , but I think that's what we should use on a hard duty knife .
Boss let me know what you think .
Oh yeah , And it's Dave's Birthday too . Happy Birthday to you Dave , you're a great guy , to do all you do for us .

Justin King
10-24-2010, 03:59 PM
Thank you, Bill! I don't want to change the way you're thinking there, but Whiteeugene did offer to donate some tubing and corbys along with micarta scales. I will be more specific about that in the list. Since we don't know how many blades or makers we are going to have yet, there is no way to tell much hardware will be needed so everything is pretty much open-ended at this point, and your offer is appreciated and accepted in any case. We just don't know what we need yet.

Edit-happy birthday Dave-

Bill T
10-24-2010, 04:09 PM
That's cool Justin , Just trying to keep the momentum going . If others want to donate rivets , tubing or funds to help out , that's great too !!

Rudy Joly
10-24-2010, 04:12 PM
In all reality I know I can find time to knock one off , and will provide my own hardware and scales. I have enough stuff kickin around here anyway.
I figure the less things get bounced around in the mail, the quicker and cheaper this can happen.

That's a grand offer Bill, good on you.


Bill T
10-24-2010, 04:26 PM
Thanks Rudy , Being former Military , this has struck a chord with me . After all , I'm only offering money and time ; while they offer up themselves ...

10-27-2010, 12:24 AM
Happy Birthday Dave!
All you fellas deserve a tip of the hat,
and I'm proud to tip mine!

Justin King
10-27-2010, 07:15 AM
Ironwolf, since you are not set up to grind I thought I would offer to grind out a blade for you if you can finish it out after HT. Let me know.

Curtiss Knives
10-27-2010, 07:30 AM
I have the CAD done for the knife and ready to run. Murph, how many do we need and what about the other material?

10-27-2010, 07:41 AM
Dave, I left you a voicemail. I'll give you a call when I get off of the training lane.

10-27-2010, 12:14 PM
Ironwolf, since you are not set up to grind I thought I would offer to grind out a blade for you if you can finish it out after HT. Let me know.

...Justin,you are just too cool for words brother...
I would be right tickled and honoured to accept your offer!
I've just moved back to Parksville,on Vancouver Island, and I'm bunking down at a friend's place for a bit.
I brought my files,hand-tools,and some handle material, and there's a small space in his shed where I can do finishing work.
I'll PM the addy to you.
This is great,to have a "place at the table" in regards to this effort,and I thank you for it!