To add a few personal thoughts and observations: learning to use recycled steels, using home made tools and such, is primarily more recreational/educational than professional in my opinion. When we started the original Neo-Tribal Metalsmiths group (which was known for using recycled materials homemade tools and such) here in Tucson,… it was just for fun, and was. Most of us had conventional shops and equipment as well, but we wanted to explore a different methodology and approach to metalsmithing/bladesmithing. At that time no one really expected or wanted it to become a commercial venture, especially me. However, as time went by, we learned new things and gained experience at it. A few of us got pretty good at it and discovered and/or helped create a market and demand for that type of work. I’m still not sure if making that shift was good or bad, but that was the reality of it. It was at that point that all the trouble really began,... power plays, politics, counter reactionism and conceptually irrelevant criticisms etc. We enjoyed it, but moving into commercialism took a lot of the fun out of it. It changed it, like anything else. However, it was never something I expected to do exclusively/indefinitely and also made other types of knives as I still do. At this point in time, I don’t think the “Neo-Tribal” label really fits my work as well as it once did. It’s been close to 20 years since then and my work has gone through numerous changes, but the knowledge and the experience I gained through "The Great Neo-Tribal Experiment“, will always remain a part of my work and still applies to almost every aspect of it,… whether the steel is store bought or salvaged/recycled.